"I am that I am."

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i think God is saying he doesn't need a voucher, he can vouch for himself...which, to some on this board would seem to invoke circular logic

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i think God is saying he doesn't need a voucher, he can vouch for himself...

What about Jesus?

he basically made the same argument:

John 8:13 The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”

 14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

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"I know where I came from and where I am going." is about the same as "I am that I am"

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"I know where I came from and where I am going." is about the same as "I am that I am"

Well, for me it's not the same, but my English is ****.

don't get me wrong, they don't equate at face value, but in context they are saying the same thing, "I am that I am" (i.e. "I vouch for myself") was the answer God gave Moses' question regarding who could Moses claim was vouching for Moses' testimony....and Jesus when questioned about who was vouching for him, basically said he could vouch for himself because
"I know where I came from and where I am going."

which, again, is circular logic for most non-believers on this board who demand that God have a voucher

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Anyway, so Jesus=God?

yes

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When Moses asks God (who, the story goes, appears to him in the form of a Burning Bush)  "Who are you?", God's reply is :

"I am that I am."

that's a good summation, but not exactly the way it is recorded:

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notice, also, Jesus used the same identity:

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This episode is pretty awesome, here is my paraphrase:

Moses:  You’re sending me to Egypt to free the Israelites?  Yo, what kind of dude do you think me is?

God:  Relax, I gots your back.

Moses:  Well, what if I tell the brothas you gots my back, but they ask who you is?

God: I am who I am…so go chill them brothas out and say, ‘I am has sent me to you.’

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A better translation at any rate is 'I am that is', or so I've always thought.

or simply, "I be is"  lol