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Peeperkorn
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« on: October 13, 2011, 08:31:40 AM »

When Moses asks God (who, the story goes, appears to him in the form of a Burning Bush)  "Who are you?", God's reply is :

"I am that I am."

Is God being deliberately tautological here? Is God confused about the distinction between subject and object in sentences? Was the translation really messed up?

Or maybe, God is the only one capable of defining God, so God is self-defining?

Hebrews were not very good in things like Logic or Linguistics.

In fact, they were a tribe of barbarians nomads whose theology "strangely" had many things in common with Egyptian and other Middle-Eastern religions.

It's the bBible, not an encyclopedia.
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Peeperkorn
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« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2011, 08:34:45 AM »

i think God is saying he doesn't need a voucher, he can vouch for himself...

What about Jesus?
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Peeperkorn
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2011, 09:40:48 AM »

i think God is saying he doesn't need a voucher, he can vouch for himself...

What about Jesus?

he basically made the same argument:

John 8:13 The Pharisees challenged him, “Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid.”

 14 Jesus answered, “Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going. 15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one. 16 But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me. 17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true. 18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me.”

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"I know where I came from and where I am going." is about the same as "I am that I am"

Well, for me it's not the same, but my English is ****.

Anyway, so Jesus=God?
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Peeperkorn
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 05:38:01 AM »

In Uruguay we got lot of jews and in a 75% they're agnostic.

Please, don't mess ethnicity with religion.
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