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« on: December 15, 2004, 04:48:17 am »
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...But this is ridiculous.

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Defeated Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry likely is going to get one less electoral vote nationally than he should have -- 251 instead of 252 -- because of an apparent mistake Monday by one of Minnesota's 10 DFL electors.

One of the 10 handwritten ballots cast for president carried the name of vice presidential candidate John Edwards (actually spelled "Ewards" on the ballot) rather than Kerry.

There was stunned silence after the announcement that Edwards had gotten a vote for president, but none of the 10 electors volunteered that they voted for Edwards as a protest, nor did anyone step forward to admit an error.

Meuers said he was certain that the Edwards ballot wasn't his, but he noted that "both the candidates were named John, and the ballots looked pretty much alike."

Although the electors expressed regret that Kerry did not win nationally, most of them also said they took pleasure in casting the votes that keep Minnesota in the Democratic column for the eighth straight presidential election, the longest Democratic streak of any state.

"John Ewards"?

Congratulations, anonymous Minnesota elector. You've flunked out of electoral college!
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2004, 05:08:04 am »
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"both the candidates were named John, and the ballots looked pretty much alike."


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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2004, 06:27:58 am »
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So this person voted for John Ewards for President, and John Edwards for Vice President??

Maybe they deliberately did it this way so as to not vote for the same person for both offices....otherwise perhaps the Congress should not consider the vote valid unless the voter in question can confirm just who this guy John Ewards is who received a vote for President.

Actually it might be kind of cool, they can go out and find someone in North Carolina with that name and tell him that he got an Electoral Vote....
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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2004, 02:14:54 pm »
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I searched for John Ewards in Google, and most of it is just misspellings of Edwards. There may be someone called Ewards who is involved in the Mormons.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2004, 01:24:51 pm »
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So he wrote down the wrong name, then mispelled the name on top of that?

And you guys wonder why we always win.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2004, 01:52:22 pm »
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Perhaps we can devine "voter intent" in some way to allocate this vote?

Perhaps all members of the electoral college should vote on touch screen machines...?

Every vote must both count and be counted...
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2004, 05:44:25 pm »
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Weren't the Bush voters suppose to be the ignorant ones?
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2004, 09:00:40 am »
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Yeah, I thought Liberals were supposed to be "smart" and "educated."  I'm pretty sure even "dumb" Mississippi can spell better.
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« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2004, 03:17:49 pm »
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I searched for John Ewards in Google, and most of it is just misspellings of Edwards. There may be someone called Ewards who is involved in the Mormons.

People Data records 5 J. Ewards, but no John, in NC.
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« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2004, 05:27:05 pm »
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Bingo. Somewhere in North Carolina, Intelius says there is a Johnny Ewards.
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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2004, 05:29:03 pm »
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There are 0 people named John Ewards in the phone book nation wide. Sounds like we have a Electoral Kindergarten.
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« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2004, 05:31:18 pm »
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There are 0 people named John Ewards in the phone book nation wide. Sounds like we have a Electoral Kindergarten.

40% of people are unlisted. Some live in houses with another person who lists primarily.

Johnny Ewards is a lucky fellow. If I wanted to pay $10 to do so, I could get his address to tell him so, but I don't want to.
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« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2004, 05:37:04 pm »
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There are 0 people named John Ewards in the phone book nation wide. Sounds like we have a Electoral Kindergarten.

40% of people are unlisted. Some live in houses with another person who lists primarily.

Johnny Ewards is a lucky fellow. If I wanted to pay $10 to do so, I could get his address to tell him so, but I don't want to.

I suppose they could have only a cellphone, too.
There are 47 people with the last name Ewards. There is a J. Ewards in Ridge, NY, and a J. R. Ewards in San Leandro, CA. It'd be funny to tell one of those people that they got an electoral vote.


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« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2004, 05:41:31 pm »
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There are 0 people named John Ewards in the phone book nation wide. Sounds like we have a Electoral Kindergarten.

40% of people are unlisted. Some live in houses with another person who lists primarily.

Johnny Ewards is a lucky fellow. If I wanted to pay $10 to do so, I could get his address to tell him so, but I don't want to.

I suppose they could have only a cellphone, too.
There are 47 people with the last name Ewards. There is a J. Ewards in Ridge, NY, and a J. R. Ewards in San Leandro, CA. It'd be funny to tell one of those people that they got an electoral vote.

I'm not sure if Johnny Ewards of NC can claim he got the electoral vote. It would be too bad if his birth name was actually Johnny.

I believe electoral votes specify the state of residence on them, so the only person who could even theoretically get them is Johnny Ewards.
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« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2004, 05:43:24 pm »
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Are they going to add John Ewards to this list?

http://www.ifa.hawaii.edu/~yan/elecv.html
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« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2004, 05:56:44 pm »
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Here's the oaths of the electors

http://minnesotademocratsexposed.blogspot.com/2004/12/mde-exclusive-match-edwards-ballot.html#comments
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« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2004, 06:04:36 pm »
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The first image I can't see because it is on 127.0.0.1, which is your hard drive. For what it's worth, it is a very good think I can't see your hard drive. Wink
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« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2005, 06:58:03 pm »
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Was a vote for "President Ewards" counted?
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« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2005, 07:44:56 pm »
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Sonja Berg looks like the likely person. Notice the letter "H" in both names. And the style is very similar.
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