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« Reply #500 on: November 11, 2012, 08:25:13 PM »

Presidents of the United States
18. Horatio Seymour (D-NY), 1869-1877.
19. John Hartranft (R-PA), 1877-1882.
20. Arthur Boreman (R-WV), 1882-1885.

21. Samuel Tilden (D-NY), 1885-1886.
22. Thomas Hendricks (D-IN), 1886-1890.
23. Grover Cleveland (D-NY), 1890-1897.
24. William McKinley (R-OH), 1897-1905.
25. Eugene Debs (LS-IN), 1905-1909.
26. Nelson Aldrich (R-RI), 1909-1913.
27. Champ Clark (D-MO), 1913-1917.
28. Upton Sinclair (SL-NJ), 1917-1925.
29. Victor Berger (SL-WI), 1925-1933.
30. Franklin Roosevelt (SL-NY), 1933-1937.
31. Henry Styles Bridges (R-NH), 1937-1941.
32. Frances Perkins (SL-MA), 1941-1949.
33.George Patton (CA-CA), 1949-1955.
34. Richard Russell (CA-GA), 1955-1957.
35. Robert Taft (R-OH), 1957-1961.
36. John Kennedy (SL-MA), 1961-1965.
37. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 1965-1973.
38. Richard Nixon (SL-CA), 1973-1981.
39. Edward Brooke (SL-MA), 1981-1985.

40. Ted Kennedy (C-MA), 1985-??

Vice Presidents of the United States.
17. Francis Blair (D-MO), 1869-1877.
18. Arthur Boreman (R-WV), 1877-1882.
Vacant, 1882-1885.
19. Thomas Hendricks (D-IN), 1885-1886.
Vacant, 1886-1889.
20. Grover Cleveland (D-NY), 1889-1890.
Vacant, 1890-1893
21. Horace Boies (D-IA), 1890-1897.
22. Levi P. Morton (R-NY), 1897-1905.
23. John W. Kern (LS-IN), 1905-1909.
24. Philander C. Knox (R-PA), 1909-1913.
25. William Smith (R-MI), 1913-1917.
26. Victor Berger (SL-WI), 1917-1921.
27. Irvine Lenroot (R-WI), 1921-1925.
28. Franklin Roosevelt (SL-NY), 1925-1933.
29. Frances Perkins (SL-MA), 1933-1937.
30. Alf Landon (R-KS), 1937-1941.
31. Henry Wallace (SL-IA), 1941-1949.
32. Richard Russell (CA-GA), 1949-1955.
Vacant, 1955-1957.
33. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 1957-1961.
34. Lyndon Johnson (SL-TX), 1961-1965.
35. Walter Judd (R-MN), 1965-1973.
36. Hubert Humphrey (SL-MN), 1973-1981.
37. Edward Brooke (SL-MA), 1981.

Vacant, 1981-1985.
38. Elizabeth Holtzman (C-NY), 1985-??
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« Reply #501 on: November 11, 2012, 09:21:49 PM »

Hey, I like your contribution. Just in the future if you change where it says color=yellow to color=gold it makes it a little easier to read (personally I can't read anything in yellow without highlighting it). Also, if you want to make a fifth candidate show up on the electoral map (instead of just toss up grey) you can do this:
Take: &AK=0;3;3
and make it: &AK=5;3;3

If you do that with your map, for example, it gives you this:


You can only do that for up to 5 candidates, though. Anything above 4 shows up as brown, so a 5 and 6 would look the same.

The format that the atlas uses for these maps is [State]=[Candidate who won];[Electoral Votes];[Percentage that candidate got in state]

So you can change it in a lot of fun ways, like showing Wyoming with 100 EVs:
Or removing Wyoming altogether:

These can all be cool to use in alt history scenarios, although in this one we seem to be assuming that all the states had the population they historically did and that they all joined the union at the time they did.

Was the 22nd amendment passed in this timeline?
Not so far, so any President could seek a third term if they wanted Wink.
Also, we seem to be operating under the assumption that you do not have to be a native born citizen (that would have disqualified President Berger).


Thanks for the tips! I've played before, but this is the first time I've jumped into one with multiple parties. Smiley

The latter point may have been an accident, but it does raise an interesting what if for a future round...
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« Reply #502 on: November 13, 2012, 03:59:13 PM »

I was unaware that Berger was born in Austria Tongue Who do we replace him with?
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« Reply #503 on: November 13, 2012, 06:47:48 PM »

I was unaware that Berger was born in Austria Tongue Who do we replace him with?

Debs would be a bit old and Norman Thomas would be a bit young, but both are plausible.

I've got next once we sort this out, if no one objects. Smiley
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« Reply #504 on: November 13, 2012, 07:03:58 PM »

I was unaware that Berger was born in Austria Tongue Who do we replace him with?

Debs would be a bit old and Norman Thomas would be a bit young, but both are plausible.

I've got next once we sort this out, if no one objects. Smiley
No problem. I am sure some Union leader/activist can take Bergers place.
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« Reply #505 on: November 13, 2012, 09:14:46 PM »

1988:

The Communist Presidency of Edward Kennedy was ambitious from the start. It soon became clear that Kennedy had no desire to move to the center like many Presidents planned to, but rather intended to follow through on his campaign promises. With a majority of seats in the House and Congress thanks to a tentative alliance between the Communists and Socialist Labor, many reforms were passed quickly. The Equal Rights Amendment was passed by both houses of Congress, although it stalled in the states due to opposition from the South and West. In response, Kennedy led Congress to pass it piece by piece through legislation. Federal bills banning discrimination based on sexual orientation were passed as well, leading to both celebrations and protests, with limited riots breaking out in several areas. Kennedy wound up calling in the National Guard to protect gay communities in several cities, although critics accused him of overstating the threat. Due to his strong stands against discrimination, Kennedy became an immensely popular figure around the world.

However, not all his policies were as popular. His attempts at expansive gun control legislation were struck down by the Supreme Court, made of primarily Socialist Labor nominees. In response to the Chernobyl disaster, Kennedy ordered a federal ban on the construction of any future nuclear power plants in the country, calling the technology a "Harbinger of death and destruction". Most controversial of all was Kennedy's call for an end to the cold war. While Nixon had toyed with the idea, bringing peace with China, Kennedy's eagerness to find common ground with Soviet Communism energized the right, as did his moves towards nationalizing troubled industries.

Kennedy refused to run from the label "Communist", instead embracing it and painting himself as a friend of downtrodden, worried Americans. This led to him becoming one of the most polarizing Presidents in United States history, with his supporters as determined to keep him in office as his detractors were to defeat him.

Heading into 1988, polls showed Kennedy vulnerable but hardly doomed. All parties were energized to bring their best candidates to the table this time. The Communists, to no one's surprise, re-nominated Kennedy/Holtzman, but things were much more contested in the other parties.

The Socialist Labor party found themselves facing a crisis, as many believed that the left had passed them by, embracing a more radical version of their platform. Attempting to strike a balance between the Communists' platform and the resurgent right wing, they nominated genial New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a moderate and passionate advocate for urban areas. His running mate, charismatic Colorado Senator Gary Hart, complemented the ticket and helped them recapture the center, as Nixon had aimed. Rumors swirled around Hart's womanizing nature, but the scandal stayed under the surface for the duration of the campaign.

The Republicans were still struggling to find their balance after being completely shut out since Goldwater's tenure and missing the runoff in the last two elections. Congressman John Anderson, a well-liked centrist, stepped up to run, promising a "return to normalcy" after the radicalism of the Kennedy years. His running mate, the moderate New Hampshire Senator Warren Rudman, brought additional policy gravitas to the ticket, although pundits criticized the ticket as wonkish and having little appeal to blue collar voters. It seemed clear that the Republicans were trying to make inroads in the north as a common-sense party, as opposed to competing against the Christian Alliance in the south.

The Christian Alliance party had a disappointing 1984, but Kennedy's tenure had re-energized them, giving them an effective boogeyman to campaign against. After two turns in the VP slot, it was Jesse Helms' turn to lead the party, and he did not disappoint the party faithful. He ran an unabashed campaign against social liberalism, using the party convention to rail against the forces of "Feminism, Sodomy, and forced integration that are destroying this country". His running mate, Senator Thad Cochran of Mississippi, brought a softer voice to the party, and allowing the ticket to place some emphasis on economics while Helms fired up the party on social issues. Cochran's full-throated defense of capitalism made him one of the rising stars of the campaign, even as Helms' rhetoric made many center-right voters uncomfortable.

The Libertarian party had quickly become a one-man show, as Ron Paul was nominated once again. Choosing Libertarian author Harry Browne as his running mate, Paul seemed re-energized by the Kennedy years, giving him the perfect opponent to make his case for economic non-interventionism against. While many doubted Paul would ever reach the Presidency, his focused, determined campaign was winning him more and more fans by the day.

Although President Kennedy was suitably left-wing for most communists, the New Left Party continued to run a ticket designed to bring attention to black issues. The radical preacher Jeremiah Wright, who had gained a following in Chicago, headed the ticket, with radical historian Howard Zinn as his running mate. While they had no chance at making any real impact, they pushed an unapologetic message of racial and economic justice, and a consistent condemnation of US intervention abroad.

With what many people called the closest election ever looming, all parties were jockeying for that little extra bit of support that could send them into the runoff.



President Ted Kennedy (C-MA)/Vice President Elizabeth Holtzman (C-NY) - 175 electoral votes, 24.1% of the popular vote
Senator Daniel Moynihan (SL-NY)/Senator Gary Hart (SL-CO) - 156 electoral votes,  24.6% of the popular vote
Senator Jesse Helms (CA-NC)/Senator Tad Cochran (CA-MS) - 98 electoral votes, 17.3% of the popular vote
Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX)/Author Harry Browne (L-NY) - 59 electoral votes, 16.7% of the popular vote
Congressman John Anderson (R-IL)/Senator Warren Rudman (R-NH) - 59 electoral votes, 16.1% of the popular vote
Reverend Jeremiah Wright (NL-IL)/Historian Howard Zinn (NL-NY) - 1.1% of the popular vote

The election was a crushing defeat for the Republicans, as their new direction had yet to take hold. For the second time in a row, the Socialist Labor and Communist parties would face off. Although President Kennedy had won the first round in terms of electoral votes, it would soon turn out to be a pyrrhic victory. Senator Moynihan had learned from the mistakes of the last SL ticket, and he made it his priority to reach out to the supporters of the losing parties, particularly the Republicans and Libertarians. By presenting himself as the common-sense alternative to the excesses of the communists, he was able to take advantage of the country's desire for a more centrist path.



Senator Daniel Moynihan (SL-NY)/Senator Gary Hart (SL-CO) - 395 electoral votes, 53.6% of the popular vote
President Ted Kennedy (C-MA)/Vice President Elizabeth Holtzman (C-NY) - 143 electoral votes, 46.4% of the popular vote
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« Reply #506 on: November 14, 2012, 02:25:17 PM »

1992

President Moynihan in his inauguration speech pledged to build an 'America at ease with itself, a kinder, gentler nation'. Initially popular for his consensual politics, his at first successful Presidency was undermined by the Hart Sex Scandal, which led to Vice-President Hart becoming a figure of ridicule. The budget deficits left behind over the past decades were by now an increasing source of concern for many voters, and Moynihan, in 1991, took steps to try and close the deficit by raising taxes. However, his refusal to cut spending led to howls of complaint from both the right of his party and the right generally. With the economy sliding into a deep recession, Moynihans poll ratings went into freefall, and he was forced to fight off an primary challenge from former Vice-President Mondale.

The Communist Party renominated Ted Kennedy for the Presidency, who selected populist left winger Tom Harkin for the VP's spot. Kennedy promised to end the 'wiggle and wobble' of the previous four years and be a 'true progressive' in the White House.

The Republicans selected popular right-wing Senator Jack Kemp of New York for their nomination, balancing him with popular western moderate John McCain of Arizona. This formidable ticket broke off some support from both the Socialist Labor and Christian Alliance Parties.

The Christian Alliance nominated outsider Pat Buchanan for President, whilst choosing Governor Zell Miller as his running mate.

Ron Paul and Harry Browne were renominated by the Libertarians.

Jesse Jackson and Ralph Nader an on the New left ticket, and polls showed them with surprisingly high support.

The election was tight, with the Republicans maintaining a narrow lead over Kennedy, with Moynihan polling in third place. Kennedy, Moynihan and Buchanan all warned against voting for Kemp and his 'tax cuts for fat cats' and 'job destroying free trade agreements', whilst Kemp urged voters to vote for 'real change'.

The first round was close but ended up being:



Senator Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ): 187 electoral votes, 25.3% of the popular vote
Former President Ted Kennedy (C-MA)/Senator Tom Harkin (C-IA): 170 electoral votes, 22.7% of the popular vote
Mr. Pat Buchanan (CA-VA)/Zell Miller (CA-GA): 103 electoral votes, 16.6% of the popular vote
President Daniel P. Moynihan (SL-NY)/Vice-President Gary Hart (SL-CO): 68 electoral votes, 15.5% of the popular vote
Representative Ron Paul (L-TX)/Author Harry Browne (L-NY): 10 electoral votes, 11.8% of the popular vote
Reverand Jesse Jackson (NL-IL)/Mr. Ralph Nade (NL-CT): 0 electoral votes, 5.1% of the popular vote

This was a disaster for the Socialist Labor Party, who hadn't come third in many years. Ted Kennedy was thought to be favouritefor the run-off, but scandals and his polarizing image dogged him, and Kemp was in the end able to pull out a victory.



Senator Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ): 313 electoral votess, 51.8% of the popular vote
Former President Ted Kennedy (C-MA)/Senator Tom Harkin (C-IA): 225 electoral votes, 48.2% of the popular vote
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« Reply #507 on: November 14, 2012, 08:30:42 PM »

1996
Jack Kemp was a master in getting his agenda passed in a Congress comprised of Communists, Socialists, Conservatives, and Libertarians. In 1993, the Kemp-Paul tax cut was passed with heavy bipartisan support. The law lowered taxes on the lower tax brackets significantly, while allowing for budget cuts in the areas such as defense and smaller social programs. He also pushed a moderate social agenda, such as lowering the drinking age to 18, passing a ban on assault rifles, and heavily increasing research funding for AIDS.

The Republican Convention re-nominated Kemp and McCain without opposition. In his second term, President Kemp promised to vastly increase free trade, as well as to continue increasing relations with the Soviet Union, which was in great turmoil after a failed coup and the secession of the Baltic Republics.

The Communist Party nominated former Vice President Elizabeth Holtzman and Vermont Governor Bernie Sanders as their ticket. Holtzman was criticized by many on the left, who thought the ticket did not represent the future of the party heading into the millennium. Many young supporters would go on to support other candidacies, in particular, that of the New Left.

The Socialist Labor Party was expected to nominate former Vice President Hart, but his personal life and scandals killed his campaign before it got off the ground. Senator Hillary Rodham, of New York, won the nomination, and asked Governor Anne Richards of Texas, to be her running mate, making it the first all female ticket for the Presidency.

The New Left nominated their only elected official, Senator Ralph Nader of Connecticut, and activist Terry Bouricius of Vermont as their ticket. The party issued a bold new platform, calling for a total ban on strip mining, a constitutional amendment abolishing private property, and voting reform.

Congressman Ron Paul did not seek the Libertarian nomination, and the party nominated longtime Congressman Dick Randolph of Alaska, and party chairman Lew Rockwell for Vice President. The Libertarian Party had built a solid bloc of young voters, and hoped to expand itself among disaffected supporters of Kemp by running on a much more fiscally conservative platform then in the past, including support for a new variation of the Balanced Budget Amendment that called for Congressional pay to be tied to a balanced budget.

The Christian Alliance nominated Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum over Pat Buchanan at their convention. Santorum campaigned on bringing the party back to “its roots”, which included support for a much more economically left wing platform. Activist Alan Keyes was selected for Vice President. Buchanan announced he was joining the Libertarian Party, and became a close ally of Ron Paul within the party.

The New Democratic Party, a small, unknown centrist party that had been running candidates for many years finally managed to garner some attention when it nominated economist Pat Choate and former Boston Mayor Raymond Flynn, on a ticket that was against illegal immigration, free trade, and in favor of a balanced budget amendment.

1996

Senator Hillary Rodham (SL-NY)/Governor Anne Richards (SL-TX)-164 EV, 22.5% of the popular vote.
Former Vice President Elizabeth Holtzman (C-NY)/Governor Bernie Sanders (C-VT)-158 EV, 18.8% of the popular vote.
President Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Vice President John McCain (R-AZ)-128 EV, 22.3% of the popular vote.
Senator Rick Santorum (CA-PA)/Mr. Alan Keyes (CA-MD)-74 EV, 17.5% of the popular vote.
Congressman Dick Randolph (L-AK)/Mr. Lew Rockwell (L-NH)-14 EV, 10.2% of the popular vote.
Senator Ralph Nader (NL-CT)/Mr. Terry Bouricius (NL-VT)-7.7% of the popular vote.
Mr. Pat Choate (ND-DC)/Mayor Raymond Flynn (ND-MA)-0.9% of the popular vote.
Other (Prohibition, Union, Nationalist)-0.1% of the popular vote.
For the first time, two women went into the runoff. Running against Holtzman from the center, Rodham managed to take a strong lead in the polls early on, and won a decisive victory over Holtzman in the final Presidential debate between the two.


Senator Hillary Rodham (SL-NY)/Governor Anne Richards (SL-TX)-305 EV, 53.4% of the popular vote.
Former Vice President Elizabeth Holtzman (C-NY)/Governor Bernie Sanders (C-VT)-233 EV, 46.6% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #508 on: November 14, 2012, 08:49:04 PM »

Presidents of the United States
18. Horatio Seymour (D-NY), 1869-1877.
19. John Hartranft (R-PA), 1877-1882.
20. Arthur Boreman (R-WV), 1882-1885.

21. Samuel Tilden (D-NY), 1885-1886.
22. Thomas Hendricks (D-IN), 1886-1890.
23. Grover Cleveland (D-NY), 1890-1897.
24. William McKinley (R-OH), 1897-1905.
25. Eugene Debs (LS-IN), 1905-1909.
26. Nelson Aldrich (R-RI), 1909-1913.
27. Champ Clark (D-MO), 1913-1917.
28. Upton Sinclair (SL-NJ), 1917-1925.
29. Victor Berger (SL-WI), 1925-1933.
30. Franklin Roosevelt (SL-NY), 1933-1937.
31. Henry Styles Bridges (R-NH), 1937-1941.
32. Frances Perkins (SL-MA), 1941-1949.
33.George Patton (CA-CA), 1949-1955.
34. Richard Russell (CA-GA), 1955-1957.
35. Robert Taft (R-OH), 1957-1961.
36. John Kennedy (SL-MA), 1961-1965.
37. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 1965-1973.
38. Richard Nixon (SL-CA), 1973-1981.
39. Edward Brooke (SL-MA), 1981-1985.

40. Ted Kennedy (C-MA), 1985-1989.
41. Daniel Moynihan (SL-NY), 1989-1993.
42. Jack Kemp (R-NY), 1993-1997.
43. Hillary Rodham (SL-NY), 1997-??

Vice Presidents of the United States.
17. Francis Blair (D-MO), 1869-1877.
18. Arthur Boreman (R-WV), 1877-1882.
Vacant, 1882-1885.
19. Thomas Hendricks (D-IN), 1885-1886.
Vacant, 1886-1889.
20. Grover Cleveland (D-NY), 1889-1890.
Vacant, 1890-1893
21. Horace Boies (D-IA), 1890-1897.
22. Levi P. Morton (R-NY), 1897-1905.
23. John W. Kern (LS-IN), 1905-1909.
24. Philander C. Knox (R-PA), 1909-1913.
25. William Smith (R-MI), 1913-1917.
26. Victor Berger (SL-WI), 1917-1921.
27. Irvine Lenroot (R-WI), 1921-1925.
28. Franklin Roosevelt (SL-NY), 1925-1933.
29. Frances Perkins (SL-MA), 1933-1937.
30. Alf Landon (R-KS), 1937-1941.
31. Henry Wallace (SL-IA), 1941-1949.
32. Richard Russell (CA-GA), 1949-1955.
Vacant, 1955-1957.
33. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ), 1957-1961.
34. Lyndon Johnson (SL-TX), 1961-1965.
35. Walter Judd (R-MN), 1965-1973.
36. Hubert Humphrey (SL-MN), 1973-1981.
37. Edward Brooke (SL-MA), 1981.

Vacant, 1981-1985.
38. Elizabeth Holtzman (C-NY), 1985-1989.
39. Gary Hart (SL-CO), 1989-1993.
40. John McCain (R-AZ), 1993-1997.
41. Anne Richards (SL-TX), 1997-??
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« Reply #509 on: November 17, 2012, 04:15:10 PM »

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« Reply #510 on: November 23, 2012, 04:47:48 PM »

Unfortunately it seems like the previous TL is dead. It had a great run, though.

I'll start a new one:

1864:
Abraham Lincoln went into the 1864 election with a fairly strong record, as the war looked more and more like a Union victory. However, he was faced with opposition on both sides as his administration broke apart. Radical Republicans were angry at Lincoln's slowness to end slavery and demanded harsh treatment of the South in the case of the likely Union victory. The Radical Republicans nominated Senator Charles Sumner for President and Senator John P. Hale under the banner of the Liberty Party. Meanwhile, the Democrats won the support of many moderates when they abandoned their anti-war stance in favor of a platform emphasizing national unity, calling for victory in the war, followed by reconciliation with the South and a repeal of Lincoln's emancipation proclamation and preservation of slavery. The Democrats nominated McClellan and War Governor of Tennesse Andrew Johnson as their ticket. A number of pro-peace Democrats nominated Senator Daniel W. Voorhees and Representative Clement Vallandingham as pro-peace candidates on the Peace Democratic party (popularly known as the Copperheads). However, most peace Democrats stayed with McClellan because they believed he presented the best chance to defeat Lincoln and the Republicans.



General George McClellan (D-NJ)/War Governor Andrew Johnson (D-TN) 125 EVs, 43.1% of the popular vote
President Abraham Lincoln (R-IL)/Vice President Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) 108 EVs, 42.5% of the popular vote
Senator Charles Sumner (L-MA)/Secretary of the Treasury John P. Hale (L-NH) 0 EVs, 11.2% of the popular vote
Senator Daniel W. Voorhees (C-IN)/Representative Clement Vallandingham (C-OH) O EVs, 3.9% of the popular vote


The split in the Republican vote allowed McClellan to be elected president.
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« Reply #511 on: November 23, 2012, 04:59:16 PM »

We were so close to finishing it Sad Its not dead dead yet, just kinda dead Tongue.
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« Reply #512 on: November 23, 2012, 05:03:28 PM »

We were so close to finishing it Sad Its not dead dead yet, just kinda dead Tongue.

Okay, if you want to continue it that's fine. It would be nice to see it finished, but tbh I lose interest in TLs as they approach the modern era, which is why I've given up on it. Tongue
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« Reply #513 on: November 23, 2012, 05:07:14 PM »

We were so close to finishing it Sad Its not dead dead yet, just kinda dead Tongue.

Okay, if you want to continue it that's fine. It would be nice to see it finished, but tbh I lose interest in TLs as they approach the modern era, which is why I've given up on it. Tongue
Once it gets going, it gets going. We could finish this list by tommorow if just one or two more people join..
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« Reply #514 on: November 23, 2012, 05:18:25 PM »
« Edited: November 23, 2012, 05:25:15 PM by Ray Goldfield »

I'll jump in to help finish the last timeline. Been a busy week, but it was a great one.

And save the new one to start after three more turns! It's a cool what-if.
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« Reply #515 on: November 23, 2012, 06:47:08 PM »

2000:

Hillary Rodham, the first female President since the 1940s, entered office in an era where many were beginning to view the Presidency as a thankless job. Not since Richard Nixon - who, ironically, had sought to bring new stability to the multi-party system before he was cut down - had a President been re-elected. And not since Kennedy had one even made it to the runoff! Rodham, a canny political mind, sought to break this curse by pivoting to the center.

Rodham's domestic policies were very popular, following in the footsteps of President Kemp's moderate stances. By trying to appeal to all sides - a tough on crime approach to please the Republicans and Christian Alliance, and a focus on economic fairness and the social safety net to appease the Communists - she held a decent-sized lead heading into the runoff.

The Communists sought to paint Rodham as a tool of the right, nominating Bernie Sanders, the Vermont Governor and former VP nominee as their candidate. He chose well-respected Georgia Congressman John Lewis, a legend of the civil rights era, as his running mate, and the two elder statesmen of the Communists ran an aggressive campaign.

The Republicans chose to target Rodham's one weak spot - foreign policy. She had kept a largely hands-off approach during her term, and the Republican candidate, former Vice President John McCain, was well suited to take advantage of that. The moderate, well-respected McCain was seen as a strong candidate, and he chose New Jersey Governor Christine Todd Whitman as his running mate, helping him with the female vote.

The Christian Alliance, shut out of the Presidency since Patton's era, were seeking a way back to relevancy. The defection of Bush scion Jeb Bush to the party gave them that opening, allowing them to nominate their most high-profile candidate in a long time. He chose Kansas Senator Sam Brownback, a socially conservative firebrand, as his running mate and gave the party their best shot in a long time at getting to the runoff.

The Libertarians also sensed their moment, recruiting their most high-profile candidate ever - the Libertarian governor of New York, Donald Trump. The controversial real estate developer had been elected in 1998, replacing Socialist Labor Governor Mario Cuomo. Trump's bombastic style and rightward tilt made him very different from past candidates, and he chose New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson, one of the most popular governors in the nation, as his running mate.

The New Left nominated Senator Nader once again, as he sought to bring more attention to the environmental issues that had been ignored by the major parties. He chose Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, the only other elected official the party had gained in the last four years, as his running mate. While the ticket had little chance of getting significant electoral votes, Nader campaigned as if the election was within his grasp. The New Democrats did not field a ticket in 2000, as the moderates in the Republicans and Socialist Labor party played well to their audience.

The runoff was one of the most divided in history, with no candidate dominating, and the runoff coming down to the wire.



Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ) - 142 electoral votes, 21.1% of the popular vote
President Hillary Rodham (SL-NY)/Vice President Ann Richards (SL-TX) - 138 electoral votes, 21.3% of the popular vote
Governor John "Jeb" Bush (CA-FL)/Senator Sam Brownback (CA-KS) - 136 electoral votes, 19.8% of the popular vote
Governor Donald Trump (L-NY)/Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM) - 88 electoral votes, 18.6% of the popular vote
Governor Bernie Sanders (C-VT)/Congressman John Lewis (C-GA) - 34 electoral votes, 13.6% of the popular vote
Senator Ralph Nader (NL-CT)/Congressman Dennis Kucinich (NL-OH), 5.1% of the popular vote

President Rodham improved on the past two Presidents, making it into the runoff, and early polling showed her as the favorite against Senator McCain, as Christian Alliance and Libertarian voters weren't enthusiastic about him. However, the conversation changed in October, when terrorists attacked the USS Cole and pushed foreign policy to the forefront of the debate. Senator McCain tirelessly hammered Rodham for her inactivity in response, promising to target terrorists wherever they hid. President Rodham tried to portray McCain as reckless, but the Vietnam Veteran had tapped into the national anger and energized the right. And as the election results came in, the pundits were united - the multi-party system had led to the "Era of the One-Termer".



Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ) - 295 electoral votes, 51.2% of the popular vote
President Hillary Rodham (SL-NY)/Vice President Ann Richards (SL-TX) - 243 electoral votes, 48.8% of the popular vote
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« Reply #516 on: November 23, 2012, 09:28:56 PM »

2004
President McCain was a stark contrast to President Rodham. Foreign policy was by far the dominant issue from the start. On the morning of September 11th, Islamic terrorists from Al Qaida struck America, destroying the World Trade Center, as well as damaging the Pentagon and Empire State Building. The attacks killed over 4,000 people. The United States military was ordered into Afghanistan, overthrowing the Taliban regime, sending Al Qaida on the run, and hunting the mastermind of the attacks, Osama Bin Laden. Later, President McCain implemented an aerial blockage over Iraq as part of UN sanctions on the Hussein regime. The blockade soon turned to a bombardment campaign that would last the duration of McCain’s term.

President McCain faced opposition in the Republican primaries from Senator Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island, though McCain easily overcame it and was eventually re-nominated with Vice President Whitman.

The Socialist Labor Party’s nomination was blown open when former Vice President Richard’s confirmed she had life threatening cancer, and declined to run. From that point on, the favored front runner was North Carolina Senator John Edwards, who beat out Senators Mosley Braun and Dick Gephardt to easily win the nomination. Edwards selected Evan Bayh, a Senator from Indiana, as his running mate.

The Communist Party was slowly fading from the glory days of Edward Kennedy. At their convention, they nominated Hispanic Labor Activist Delores Huerta and Reverend Al Sharpton of New York as their ticket. The party focused on minority issues, and the platform called for the establishment of an “international union” which would “abolish” the concepts of borders.

The Christian Alliance Party nominated Senator Sam Brownback at their convention, and he asked activist Alan Keyes to be his running mate. The platform focused on foreign policy issues in particular, calling for more foreign intervention in the Middle East.

The Libertarian Party convention saw Governor Gary Johnson and Senator Lisa Murkowski nominated. The party had the financial support of Donald Trump, who had formed strong ties with the Libertarian leadership that formerly distrusted him.

The New Left again nominated Ralph Nader, who lost his senate seat in the 1998 midterms. He asked Native American activist Russell Means to be his running mate.



President John McCain (R-AZ)/Vice President Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)-147 EV, 24.4% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-AZ)/Senator Lisa Murkowski (L-AK)-132 EV, 24.3% of the popular vote.
Senator John Edwards (SL-NC)/Senator Evan Bayh (SL-IN)-130 EV, 23.9% of the popular vote.
Senator Sam Brownback (CA-KS)/Mr. Alan Keyes (CA-MD)-105 EV, 15.5% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Dolores Huerta (C-NM)/Mr. Al Sharpton (C-NY)-24 EV, 9.7% of the popular vote.
Former Senator Ralph Nader (NL-CT)/Mr. Russell Means (NL-NM)-2.0% of the popular vote.
Other (New Democratic, Reform, Prohibition)-0.2% of the popular vote.

President McCain, like President Rodham, made it to the runoff. The Libertarians also managed to make the runoff for the first time in the party’s history. McCain energized Christian Alliance and Socialist voters by attacking Johnson’s social views, and economic policies. Johnson, meanwhile, attacked McCain on his hawkish foreign policy. On election day, McCain became the first President since Nixon to be reelected. Johnson won over a surprising amount of conservative voters who preferred his economic policy over McCain’s, allowing him to take some of the Southern states by very narrow margins.


President John McCain (R-AZ)/Vice President Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)-337 EV, 57.5% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-AZ)/Senator Lisa Murkowski (L-AK)-201 EV, 42.5% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #517 on: November 23, 2012, 10:33:15 PM »

2008:

President McCain's two-term Presidency was the most successful in well over a decade. While some on the left grumbled about his aggressive foreign policy, his decision to keep US troops off the ground in Iraq was immensely popular, and kept the war from becoming a quagmire. His approval ratings remained solid, and many in the party wanted him to run for a third term. However, in November 2007, McCain announced that he would not be seeking re-election.

Vice President Whitman was the consensus choice as the Republican nominee, hoping to capitalize on the President's popularity. New York Governor Rudy Giuliani, the former Mayor who won international acclaim for his cleanup of the city as well as his response to the 9/11 attacks, was chosen as Whitman's running mate, creating a ticket of Northerners.

The Socialist Labor party, stinging after missing the primary in 2004, regrouped and sought to shore up their Midwestern base. Former VP nominee Evan Bayh swept through the primaries, thanks to his effective appeal to blue collar workers and farmers. He chose Montana Governor Brian Schweitzer as his running mate, giving the party more Western appeal. However, the party was soon caught up in scandal when former Presidential nominee John Edwards was accused fraud relating to an extramarital affair. No one was sure what effect this would have on the clean ticket of Bayh/Schweitzer.

The Libertarians had made it to the runoff for the first time in the previous election, their best showing ever. Gary Johnson had lost respectably against the popular President McCain, and the party was happy to give him another shot. He chose the son of party legend Ron Paul, Senator Rand Paul, as his running mate, marking a meteoric rise for the young Senator. Many felt this election could be Johnson's to lose.

The Christian Alliance party had yet to make inroads outside the Bible Belt, but the candidacy of Mike Huckabee, the charming, folksy Governor of Arkansas, gave them new hope. Huckabee was seen as a strong change of pace from the dogmatic Brownback, who had turned off many right-leaning voters. While Huckabee was unabashedly conservative, his style won him many new fans. However, his pick of Texas Governor Rick Perry - an attempt to wrest Texas back from the Libertarians - backfired as Perry made a number of controversial statements on the campaign trail.

The Communists were slowly sinking into irrelevance after two fifth-place showings in a row. The party managed to give themselves a slight boost by convincing the New Left party to merge with them, in exchange for a stronger focus on environmental issues and an anti-interventionist foreign policy. Congressman Dennis Kucinich, who had been on the New Left ticket eight years prior, was nominated for President and chose Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick as his running mate. But many in the party were concerned that they were headed the same way as the New Left party.

The first round was tight, with Whitman maintaining a small but consistent lead. However, a stock market crisis in the waning days of the election sent her poll numbers tumbling, with the McCain administration attacked on both sides by the Socialist Labor party, who claimed that more government intervention was needed to protect the public, and the Libertarians, who blamed government-run loan programs for setting the stage for the disaster. In the end, these competing visions would go head-to-head. On election day, the Republicans found themselves nearly wiped out, with Giuliani's popularity helping to carry big states in the Northwest, but not nearly enough to make it into the runoff. Johnson's decision to campaign hard in California and Florida paid dividends, as he eked out a narrow plurality and won the first round, despite taking only 9 states.



Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Senator Rand Paul (L-KY) - 152 electoral votes, 25.3% of the popular vote
Senator Evan Bayh (SL-IN)/Governor Brian Schweitzer (SL-IN) - 150 electoral votes, 24.9% of the popular vote
Governor Mike Huckabee (CA-AR)/Governor Rick Perry (CA-TX) - 128 electoral votes, 19.1% of the popular vote
Vice President Christine Todd Whitman (R-NJ)/Governor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) - 82 electoral votes, 19.6% of the popular vote
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (C-OH)/Governor Deval Patrick (C-MA) - 26 electoral votes, 10.6% of the popular vote

The runoff was guaranteed to be tight, a battle of two competing economic visions for the country. Passions ran high, with Bayh accusing Johnson of wanting to abandon the victims of the economic collapse, while Johnson claimed that Bayh would pass the debt on to future generations. In the end, Bayh carried the Midwest, looking unbeatable as the early results rolled in. But Johnson's gambit to appeal to the urban population of the west coast states, with a particular focus on college students, paid dividends as he narrowly carried the states of Oregon and Washington, pushing him just over the line. The Libertarians had reached the White House.



Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Senator Rand Paul (L-KY) - 271 electoral votes, 50.2% of the popular vote
Senator Evan Bayh (SL-IN)/Governor Brian Schweitzer (SL-MT) - 267 electoral votes, 49.8% of the popular vote
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« Reply #518 on: December 02, 2012, 02:04:01 PM »

Bump. Anyone want to do 2012, or should be start a new one/continue with the 1864 one?
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« Reply #519 on: December 02, 2012, 03:23:40 PM »

I guess I will cap it off Smiley
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« Reply #520 on: December 02, 2012, 04:27:42 PM »

2012

Former President Hillary Rodham (SL-NY)/Former Governor Joe Manchin (SL-WV)-189 EV, 30.9% of the popular vote.
President Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Vice President Rand Paul (L-KY)-126 EV, 29.7% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Mike Huckabee (CA-AR)/Congressman Todd Akin (CA-MO)-121 EV, 23.3% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Senator Ben Nelson (R-NE)-77 EV, 10.2% of the popular vote.
Senator Bernie Sanders (C-VT)/Congressman Van Jones (C-CA)-25 EV, 5.6% of the popular vote.
Other (New Democratic, Reform, Prohibition)-0.3% of the popular vote.

Gary Johnson was a popular President throughout his first three years in office, despite controversial economic policies, such as cutting back at spending, publically auditing the Central Bank, privatizing nationalized industries, and a failed attempt at reforming Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security. His domestic policies, including the decriminalization of marijuana, immigration reform, and ending the Department of Internal Security were very popular, and his personal likability rating remained much higher than his general approval ratings did.

The Socialist Labor Party nomination was Hillary Rodham’s for the taking, and in a historic political comeback, she won the primaries without any opposition, and asked moderate West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin to be his running mate. The Rodham/Manchin ticket ran on a populist, blue collar ticket, and won the support of working class voters in crucial regions in the Midwest.

The Libertarians re-nominated the Johnson/Paul ticket at their convention, and focused hard on showing off the administrations accomplishments. The Libertarians worked hard to win over the more moderate to liberal states like California by playing the Socialists and Communists off one another and running on a more moderate platform than in 2008.

The Christian Alliance Convention was a simple coronation of Mike Huckabee, who asked Missouri Congressman Todd Akin to be his running mate. The ticket would be doomed after controversial statements about rape and abortion by Akin came to light.

The Republicans nominated Rudy Giuliani and Senator Ben Nelson in an attempt to win over the west and northeast-some of the last areas the Republicans held sway in. The Republicans campaigned on a centrist ticket, heavily attacking the Johnson administrations policies in regard to the economy, but failed to win over moderate voters.

The Communists nominated Senator Bernie Sanders and Congressman Van Jones, and ran on the same platform as 2008, with the exception of supporting an amendment creating guaranteed income and wealth caps, which was left out of more recent platforms.

By nature of her star power, Clinton was able to easily pull of a plurality and go into the runoff. Johnson, meanwhile, struggled to unite a coalition like the one that brought him into office in 2008, and in the end, his personal popularity could not compete with that of former President Clinton.


Former President Hillary Rodham (SL-NY)/Former Governor Joe Manchin (SL-WV)-336 EV, 54.9% of the popular vote.
President Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Vice President Rand Paul (L-KY)-202 EV, 45.1% of the popular vote.
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« Reply #521 on: December 02, 2012, 04:33:08 PM »

This was one of the best timelines we've done in this thread, hands down.

Should we bump the 1864 one and go from there?
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« Reply #522 on: December 02, 2012, 04:41:48 PM »

This was one of the best timelines we've done in this thread, hands down.

Should we bump the 1864 one and go from there?

(It kinda got really off course from where it started, but, oh well)

It looks like the 1864 one would result in a win for the Confederacy, and not only did we already do that, but I don't know if I"m up to try to go into the whole alternate Union vs. Confederacy politics thing again. I'd rather not, personally.
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« Reply #523 on: December 02, 2012, 04:49:22 PM »

This was one of the best timelines we've done in this thread, hands down.

Should we bump the 1864 one and go from there?

(It kinda got really off course from where it started, but, oh well)

It looks like the 1864 one would result in a win for the Confederacy, and not only did we already do that, but I don't know if I"m up to try to go into the whole alternate Union vs. Confederacy politics thing again. I'd rather not, personally.

Ok, that's fine. I was just proposing that one because the old TL looked dead and I wanted to start something. Somebody else should propose something now.
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« Reply #524 on: December 02, 2012, 05:00:06 PM »

This was one of the best timelines we've done in this thread, hands down.

Should we bump the 1864 one and go from there?

(It kinda got really off course from where it started, but, oh well)

It looks like the 1864 one would result in a win for the Confederacy, and not only did we already do that, but I don't know if I"m up to try to go into the whole alternate Union vs. Confederacy politics thing again. I'd rather not, personally.

Ok, that's fine. I was just proposing that one because the old TL looked dead and I wanted to start something. Somebody else should propose something now.
How about we go further back and do the Whig/1840's/1850's era.
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