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Vosem
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« on: August 28, 2012, 01:35:42 PM »

No mention of today's Crop poll?

PQ 33%
CAQ 28%
PLQ 26%
QS 7%
ON 3%
PVQ 2%

Yes, I read about that. This PLQ-supporting allophone is disappointed.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 01:31:51 PM »

So, I've actually been following this election, just not on this site, and I've decided to post here, my probably final (and sort of elaborate) seat-by-seat predictions, along with margins, and, in most seats, the second-place. The ridings are organized by region and alphabetically (the way Wikipedia does). Highlights:
  • PQ win a minority government. They are in the mid-50s and even if they form some sort of deal with the smaller sovereigntist left-wing parties they are still short of a majority.
  • QS wins Mercier and Gouin by double-digits, but doesn't come close anywhere else, though they come in second in a few other ridings. Ultimately, 2008 was an embarrasingly good result for this party and unfortunately they'll do even better this time.
  • ON wins Nicolet-Becancour.
  • Charest just barely ekes out a win in Sherbrooke. The PLQ get just short of 40 seats, a better result than expected, and become the Opposition.
  • The CAQ get 30 seats. Legault wins in l'Assomption. The CAQ gets a good result, all in all.
  • Ultimately...every single party in the Assembly can spin this result as a victory, which is kind of weird. Hardest of all to do so for the Liberals, but hey – everybody thought we'd do even worse!

Bas-Saint-Laurent and Gaspesie-Iles-de-la-Madeleine:
Bonaventure: Damien Arsenault (PLQ) defeats challenger Sylvain Roy (PQ) by 2%
Cote-du-Sud: Francois Lagace (CAQ) defeats Norbert Morin (PLQ) by 6-7%
Gaspe: Gaetan Lelievre (PQ) defeats Georges Mamelonet (PLQ) by 17-18%
Iles-de-la-Madeleine: Jeannine Richard (PQ) defeats Germain Chevarie (PLQ) by 6%
Matane-Matapedia: Pascal Berube (PQ) defeats challenger Jean-Clement Ouellet (PLQ) by 28%
Rimouski: Irvin Pelletier (PQ) defeats challenger Raymond Giguere (PLQ) by 18%
Riviere-du-Loup-Temiscouata: Jean d'Amour (PLQ) defeats challenger Michel Lagace (PQ) by 17-18%

Regional Total:
PQ: 4
PLQ: 2
CAQ: 1

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 4
PLQ: 2
CAQ: 1

Saguenay-Lac-Saint-Jean and Cote-Nord:
Chicoutimi: Stephane Bedard (PQ) defeats challenger Carol Neron (PLQ) by 18%
Dubuc: Jean-Marie Claveau (PQ) defeats Serge Simard (PLQ) by 10%
Duplessis: Lorraine Richard (PQ) defeats challenger Lise Pelletier (PLQ) by 25%
Jonquiere: Sylvain Gaudreault (PQ) defeats challenger Pierre-Olivier Simard (CAQ) by 23%
Lac-Saint-Jean: Alexandre Cloutier (PQ) defeats challenger Jeannot Boulianne (PLQ) by 32-33%
Rene-Levesque: Marjolain Dufour (PQ) defeats challenger Pascal Chouinard (PQ) by 34%
Roberval: Denis Trottier (PQ) defeats challenger Georges Simard (PLQ) by 13%

Regional Total:
PQ: 7

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 11
PLQ: 2
CAQ: 1

Capite-Nationale:
Charlesbourg: Denise Trudel (CAQ) defeats Michel Pigeon (PLQ) by less than 1%
Charlevoix-Cote-de-Beaupre: Pauline Marois (PQ) defeats challenger Ian Latremouille (CAQ) by 16%
Chauveau: Gerard Deltell (CAQ) defeats challenger Marie-Eve Picard-Bedard (PLQ) by 24%
Jean-Lesage: Andre Drolet (PLQ) defeats PQ and CAQ challengers tied for 2nd place by 6%
Jean-Talon: Yves Bolduc (PLQ) defeats Neko Likongo (PQ) by 16%
La Peltrie: Eric Caire (CAQ) defeats challenger Jean-Francois Gosselin (PLQ) by 18%
Louis-Hebert: Sam Hamad (PLQ) defeats challenger Michel Hamel (CAQ) by 8%
Montmorency: Michelyne St-Laurent (CAQ) defeats Raymond Bernier (PLQ) by 9-10%
Portneuf: Jacques Marcotte (CAQ) defeats Michel Matte (PLQ) by 16-17%
Taschereau: Agnes Maltais (PQ) defeats Clement Gignac (PLQ) by 13%
Vanier-Les Rivieres: Sylvain Levesque (CAQ) defeats Patrick Huot (PLQ) by 10-11%

Regional Total:
CAQ: 6
PLQ: 3
PQ: 2

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 13
CAQ: 7
PLQ: 5

Mauricie:
Champlain: Noella Champagne (PQ) defeats challenger Pierre Jackson (CAQ) by 6-7%
Laviolette: Julie Boulet (PLQ) defeats challenger Andre Beaudoin (PQ) by 19%
Maskinonge: Jean-Paul Diamond (PLQ) defeats challenger Patrick Lahaie (PQ) by 1%
Saint-Maurice: Luc Trudel (PQ) defeats Robert Pilotte (PLQ) by 8%
Trois-Rivieres: Djemila Benhabib (PQ) defeats Danielle St-Amand (PLQ) by 2%

Regional Total:
PQ: 3
PLQ: 2

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 16
CAQ: 7
PLQ: 7

Estrie:
Megantic: Gloriane Blais (PQ) defeats Ghislain Bolduc (PLQ) by 3-4%
Orford: Pierre Reid (PLQ) defeats challenger Michel Breton (PQ) by 8%
Richmond: Etienne-Alexis Boucher (PQ) defeats Karine Vallieres (PLQ) by 10%
Saint-Francois: Rejean Hebert (PQ) defeats Nathalie Goguen (PLQ) by 12%
Sherbrooke: Jean Charest (PLQ) defeats challenger Serge Cardin (PQ) by less than 1%

Regional Total:
PQ: 3
PLQ: 2

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 19
PLQ: 9
CAQ: 7
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2012, 01:32:54 PM »

Montreal – East:
Anjou-Louis-Riel: Lise Theriault (PLQ) defeats challenger Martine Roux (PQ) by 8%
Bourassa-Sauve: Rita deSantis (PLQ) defeats Marianne Dessureault (PQ) by 17%
Bourget: Maka Kotto (PQ) defeats Mario Bentrovato (CAQ) by 17-18%
Cremazie: Diane deCourcy (PQ) defeats Eleni Bakopanos (PLQ) by 7-8%
Gouin: Francoise David (QS) defeats Nicolas Girard (PQ) by 15%
Hochelaga-Maisonneuve: Carole Poirier (PQ) defeats challenger Alexandre Leduc (QS) by 24%
Jeanne-Mance-Viger: Filomena Rotiroti (PLQ) defeats challenger Jean-Francois Gagne (CAQ) by 35%
LaFontaine: Marc Tanguay (PLQ) defeats challenger Domenico Cavaliere (CAQ) by 26%
Laurier-Dorion: Gerry Sklavounos (PLQ) defeats challenger Badiona Bazin (PQ) by 3-4%
Mercier: Amir Khadir (QS) defeats challenger Jean Poirier (PQ) by 32%
Pointe-aux-Trembles: Nicole Leger (PQ) defeats challenger Guy Boutin (CAQ) by 22-23%
Rosemont: Jean-Francois Lisee (PQ) defeats Madwa-Nika Phanord-Cadet (PLQ) by 22-23%
Sainte-Marie-Saint-Jacques: Daniel Breton (PQ) defeats Manon Masse (QS) by 13%
Viau: Emmanuel Dubourg (PLQ) defeats challenger Gabriel Munayco (PQ) by 22%

Regional Total:
PLQ: 6
PQ: 6
QS: 2

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 25
PLQ: 15
CAQ: 7
QS: 2

Montreal – West:
Acadie: Christine St-Pierre (PLQ) defeats challenger Rachid Bandou (PQ) by 37%
D'Arcy-McGee: Lawrence Bergman (PLQ) defeats PQ, CAQ, QS challengers tied for 2nd place by 80%
Jacques-Cartier: Geoffrey Kelley (PLQ) defeats challenger Paola Hawa (CAQ) by 56%
Marguerite-Bourgeoys: Robert Poeti (PLQ) defeats Jessica Riggi (PQ) by 36%
Marquette: Francois Ouimet (PLQ) defeats Etienne Gougoux (PQ) by 21%
Mont-Royal: Pierre Arcand (PLQ) defeats PQ and CAQ challengers tied for 2nd place by 53%
Nelligan: Yolande James (PLQ) defeats challenger Philippe Boileau (CAQ) by 43%
Notre-Dame-de-Grace: Kathleen Weil (PLQ) defeats challenger David Mandel (QS) by 37%
Outremont: Raymond Bachand (PLQ) defeats challenger Roxanne Gendron (PQ) by 20%
Robert-Baldwin: Pierre Marsan (PLQ) defeats challenger Toni Rinow (CAQ) by 55-56%
Saint-Henri-Sainte-Anne: Marguerite Blais (PLQ) defeats challenger Sophie Stanke (PQ) by 2-3%
Saint-Laurent: Jean-Marc Fournier (PLQ) defeats challenger George Manolikakis (CAQ) by 22%
Verdun: Henri-Francois Gautrin (PLQ) defeats challenger Thierry St-Cyr (PQ) by 6%
Westmount-Saint-Louis: Jacques Chagnon (PLQ) defeats challenger Marc-Andre Bahl (PQ) by 56%

Regional Total:
PLQ: 14

Overall Total So Far:
PLQ: 29
PQ: 25
CAQ: 7
QS: 2

Outaouais:
Chapleau: Marc Carriere (PLQ) defeats challenger Yves Morin (PQ) by 20%
Gatineau: Stephanie Vallee (PLQ) defeats challenger Maude Tremblay (PQ) by 19-20%
Hull: Maryse Gaudreault (PLQ) defeats challenger Gilles Aube (PQ) by 13%
Papineau: Jean-Francois Primeau (PQ) defeats Alexandre Iraca (PLQ) by less than 1%
Pontiac: Charlotte l'Ecuyer (PLQ) defeats challenger Genevieve Gendron-Nadeau (PQ) by 39%

Regional Total:
PLQ: 4
PQ: 1

Overall Total So Far:
PLQ: 33
PQ: 26
CAQ: 7
QS: 2

Abitibi-Temiscamingue and Nord-du-Quebec:
Abitibi-Est: Elizabeth Larouche (PQ) defeats Pierre Corbeil (PLQ) by 5%
Abitibi-Ouest: Francois Gendron (PQ) defeats challenger Claude Morin (PLQ) by 34-35%
Rouyn-Noranda-Temiscamingue: Gilles Chapadeau (PQ) defeats Melissa Turgeon (PLQ) by 5%
Ungava: Luc Ferland (PQ) defeats challenger Gerald Lemoyne (PLQ) by 23%

Regional Total:
PQ: 4

Overall Total So Far:
PLQ: 33
PQ: 30
CAQ: 7
QS: 2

Chaudiere-Appalaches and Centre-du-Quebec:
Arthabaska: Sylvie Roy (CAQ) defeats Claude Bachand (PLQ) by 7%
Beauce-Nord: Andre Spenard (CAQ) defeats Jack Roy (PLQ) by 36%
Beauce-Sud: Richard Savoie (CAQ) defeats Robert Dutil (PLQ) by 25%
Bellechasse: Christian Levesque (CAQ) defeats Dominique Vien (PLQ) by 17%
Chutes-de-la-Chaudiere: Marc Picard (CAQ) defeats challenger Real St-Laurent (PLQ) by 27%
Drummond-Bois-Francs: Sebastien Schneeberger (CAQ) defeats Annie Jean (PQ) by 8%
Johnson: Stephane Legault (CAQ) defeats Yves-Francois Blanchet (PQ) by 10%
Levis: Christian Dube (CAQ) defeats Gilles Lehouillier (PLQ) by 8-9%
Lotbiniere-Frontenac: Martin Caron (CAQ) defeats Laurent Lessard (PLQ) by 6-7%
Nicolet-Becancour: Jean-Martin Aussant (ON) defeats challenger Marc Descoteaux (PLQ) by 2%

Regional Total:
CAQ: 9
ON: 1

Overall Total So Far:
PLQ: 33
PQ: 30
CAQ: 16
QS: 2
ON: 1

Laval:
Chomedey: Guy Ouellette (PLQ) defeats challenger Jean Cooke (PQ) by 32%
Fabre: Dominique Anglade (CAQ) defeats Francois-Gycelain Rocque (PQ) by less than 1%
Laval-des-Rapides: Leo Bureau-Blouin (PQ) defeats Alain Paquet (PLQ) by 7%
Milles-Iles: Robert Carrier (PQ) defeats Francine Charbonneau (PLQ) by 1%
Sainte-Rose: Suzanne Proulx (PQ) defeats Francois Gaudreau (CAQ) by 6%
Vimont: Linda Tousignant (PQ) defeats Jean Rousselle (PLQ) by 1%

Regional Total:
PQ: 4
CAQ: 1
PLQ: 1

Overall Total So Far:
PLQ: 34
PQ: 34
CAQ: 17
QS: 2
ON: 1

Lanaudiere:
Berthier: Andre Villeneuve (PQ) defeats challenger Francois Benjamin (CAQ) by 4%
Joliette: Veronique Hivon (PQ) defeats challenger Normand Masse (CAQ) by 15%
L'Assomption: Francois Legault (CAQ) defeats Lizabel Nitoi (PQ) by 6%
Masson: Christian Gauthier (CAQ) defeats Diane Hamelin (PQ) by less than 1%
Repentigny: Chantal Longpre (CAQ) defeats Scott McKay (PQ) by 2%
Rousseau: Nicolas Marceau (PQ) defeats challenger Laurence Fortin (CAQ) by 17-18%
Terrebonne: Gaetan Barrette (CAQ) defeats Mathieu Traversy (PQ) by 10%

Regional Total:
CAQ: 4
PQ: 3

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 37
PLQ: 34
CAQ: 21
QS: 2
ON: 1

Laurentides:
Argenteuil: Roland Richer (PQ) defeats challenger Lise Proulx (PLQ) by 4%
Bertrand: Claude Cousineau (PQ) defeats challenger Yannick Ouellette (PLQ) by 24%
Blainville: Daniel Ratthe (CAQ) defeats challenger Bernard Genereux (PQ) by 36%
Deux-Montagnes: Benoit Charette (CAQ) defeats challenger Daniel Goyer (PQ) by 31%
Groulx: Helene Daneault (CAQ) defeats Raymond Archambault (PQ) by 16%
Labelle: Sylvain Page (PQ) defeats challenger Vicki Emard (PLQ) by 32%
Mirabel: Sylvie d'Amours (CAQ) defeats Denise Beaudoin (PQ) by 5%
Saint-Jerome: Jacques Duchesneau (CAQ) defeats Gilles Robert (PQ) by 12-13%

Regional Total:
CAQ: 5
PQ: 3

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 40
PLQ: 34
CAQ: 26
QS: 2
ON: 1

Monteregie – Eastern:
Borduas: Pierre Duchesne (PQ) defeats Emmanuelle Gehin (CAQ) by 13%
Brome-Missisquoi: Pierre Paradis (PLQ) defeats challenger Benoit Legault (CAQ) by less than 1%
Chambly: Bertrand St-Arnaud (PQ) defeats challenger Martin Trudeau (CAQ) by 3%
Granby: Francois Bonnardel (CAQ) defeats challenger Guy Gaudord (PLQ) by 30%
Iberville: Marie Bouille (PQ) defeats challenger Claire Samson (CAQ) by 8-9%
Richelieu: Elaine Zakaib (PQ) defeats challenger Alain Plante (PLQ) by 16%
Saint-Hyacinthe: Emilien Pelletier (PQ) defeats challenger Pierre Schetagne (CAQ) by 10%
Saint-Jean: Dave Turcotte (PQ) defeats challenger Yvan Berthelot (CAQ) by 12%
Vercheres: Stephane Bergeron (PQ) defeats challenger Chantal Soucy (CAQ) by 8%

Regional Total:
PQ: 7
CAQ: 1
PLQ: 1

Overall Total So Far:
PQ: 47
PLQ: 35
CAQ: 27
QS: 2
ON: 1

Monteregie – South Shore:
Beauharnois: Guy Leclair (PQ) defeats challenger Michel Drouin (CAQ) by 15%
Chateauguay: Maryse Perreault (PQ) defeats Pierre Moreau (PLQ) by 1%
Huntingdon: Claire Isabelle (CAQ) defeats Stephane Billette (PLQ) by 1%
La Piniere: Fatima Houda-Pepin (PLQ) defeats PQ and CAQ challengers tied for 2nd place by 23%
Laporte: Nicole Menard (PLQ) defeats Simon Belanger (PQ) by 6%
La Prairie: Pierre Langlois (PQ) defeats Stephane le Bouyonnec (CAQ) by 7%
Marie-Victorin: Bernard Dranville (PQ) defeats challenger Simon Jolin-Barrette (CAQ) by 21%
Montarville: Nathalie Roy (CAQ) defeats Monique Richard (PQ) by 2-3%
Sanguinet: Francois Rebello (CAQ) defeats challenger Alain Therrien (PQ) by 28%
Soulanges: Lucie Charlebois (PLQ) defeats challenger Andre Bouthillier (PQ) by less than 1%
Taillon: Marie Malavoy (PQ) defeats challenger Pierre Cimone (CAQ) by 15%
Vachon: Martine Oullet (PQ) defeats challenger Linda Saulnier (PLQ) by 26%
Vaudreuil: Yvon Marcoux (PLQ) defeats challenger Kim Comeau (PQ) by 13-14%

Regional Total:
PQ: 6
PLQ: 4
CAQ: 3

Overall Total:
PQ: 55
PLQ: 39
CAQ: 30
QS: 2
ON: 1
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2012, 05:45:19 AM »

So, it seems Forum is projecting some late momentum towards the PQ, while I was predicting the literal-opposite last-minute trend (both the PLQ and CAQ overperform).

Bit of a PQ bump in the last couple of days, it seems?

"last couple of days" = "right after Vosem posts his projections"
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2012, 03:29:02 PM »

Vosem's shifted his projections, since the Forum poll suggests PQ will ultimately get a majority and there is no anti-PQ swing in the works. (If the old one is more accurate than the new one, I will be pissed.) Highlights: PQ majority, PLQ official opposition and second place in the popular vote, QS 2 seats, CAQ does OK, Charest loses in Sherbrooke, Aussant loses in Nicolet-Becancour. I'm rather busier Tuesdays than Sundays, so this set isn't as detailed:

Abitibi Est: PQ
Abitibi Ouest: PQ
Acadie: PLQ
Anjou-Louis-Riel: PLQ
Argenteuil: PQ
Arthabaska: CAQ
Beauce-Nord: CAQ
Beauce-Sud: CAQ
Beauharnois: PQ
Bellechasse: CAQ
Berthier: CAQ
Bertrand: PQ
Blainville: CAQ
Bonaventure: PQ
Borduas: PQ
Bourassa-Sauve: PLQ
Bourget: PQ
Brome-Missisquoi: CAQ
Chambly: PQ
Champlain: PQ
Chapleau: PLQ
Charlesbourg: CAQ
Charlevoix-Cote-de-Beaupre: PQ
Chateauguay: PQ
Chauveau: CAQ
Chicoutimi: PQ
Chomedey: PLQ
Chutes-de-la-Chaudiere: CAQ
Cote-du-Sud: CAQ
Cremazie: PQ
D’Arcy-McGee: PLQ
Deux-Montagnes: PQ
Drummond-Bois-Francs: CAQ
Dubuc: PQ
Duplessis: PQ
Fabre: PQ
Gaspe: PQ
Gatineau: PLQ
Gouin: QS
Granby: CAQ
Groulx: CAQ
Hochelaga-Maisonneuve: PQ
Hull: PLQ
Huntingdon: CAQ
Iberville: PQ
Iles-de-la-Madeleine: PQ
Jacques-Cartier: PLQ
Jean-Lesage: CAQ
Jeanne-Mance-Viger: PLQ
Jean-Talon: PLQ
Johnson: CAQ
Joliette: PQ
Jonquiere: PQ
Labelle: PQ
Lac-Saint-Jean: PQ
LaFontaine: PLQ
La Peltrie: CAQ
La Piniere: PLQ
Laporte: PLQ
La Prairie: PQ
L’Assomption: CAQ
Laurier-Dorion: PLQ
Laval-des-Rapides: PQ
Laviolette: PLQ
Levis: CAQ
Lotbiniere-Frontenac: CAQ
Louis-Hebert: PLQ
Marguerite-Bourgeois: PLQ
Marie-Victorin: PQ
Marquette: PLQ
Maskinonge: PQ
Masson: PQ
Matane-Matapedia: PQ
Megantic: PQ
Mercier: QS
Mille-Iles: PQ
Mirabel: PQ
Montarville: PQ
Montmorency: CAQ
Mont-Royal: PLQ
Nelligan: PLQ
Nicolet-Becancour: CAQ
Notre-Dame-de-Grace: PLQ
Orford: PLQ
Outremont: PLQ
Papineau: PQ
Pointe-aux-Trembles: PQ
Pontiac: PLQ
Portneuf: CAQ
Rene-Levesque: PQ
Repentigny: PQ
Richelieu: PQ
Richmond: PQ
Rimouski: PQ
Riviere-du-Loup-Temiscouata: PQ
Robert-Baldwin: PLQ
Roberval: PQ
Rosemont: PQ
Rousseau: PQ
Rouyn-Noranda-Temiscamingue: PQ
Saint-Francois: PQ
Saint-Henri-Sainte-Anne: PQ
Saint-Hyacinth: PQ
Saint-Jean: PQ
Saint-Jerome: CAQ
Saint-Laurent: PLQ
Sainte-Marie-Saint-Jacques: PQ
Saint-Maurice: PQ
Sainte-Rose: PQ
Sanguinet: PQ
Sherbrooke: PQ
Soulanges: PQ
Taillon: PQ
Taschereau: PQ
Terrebonne: PQ
Trois-Rivieres: PQ
Ungava: PQ
Vachon: PQ
Vanier-Les Rivieres: CAQ
Vaudreuil: PLQ
Vercheres: PQ
Verdun: PLQ
Viau: PLQ
Vimont: PQ
Westmount-Saint-Louis: PLQ

Total:
PQ 66
PLQ 31
CAQ 26
QS 2

Popular Vote:
PQ 33.5%
PLQ 27.4%
CAQ 26.8%
QS 7.3%
ON 2.5%
Vert 1.6%
Others 0.9%


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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2012, 09:26:57 PM »

If the Liberals are worried about Charbonneau, it might make sense to pick a new leader who's seen as not friendly with Charest...Pierre Paradis is still around, or is that impossible?
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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2012, 04:11:33 PM »

I fail to see how he would be an asset, given than he was negiociating his future job in the private health sector when he was still the Health minister, which isn't very clean nor ethical.

How so?
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2012, 09:41:02 PM »

I fail to see how he would be an asset, given than he was negiociating his future job in the private health sector when he was still the Health minister, which isn't very clean nor ethical.

How so?

Well, conflict on interest. He could be tempted to use his position as a minister to give advantages to the place he will go work.
That would be harmless usually, but the PLQ is under clouds of corruption, they should take a very clean leader.

Ah, OK. Now that seems obvious. I thought it was a British-style Ken Livingstone private-healthcare-is-bad type scandal, instead it's something reasonable.

So there is a PLQ politician named Couillard ?

All French-speakers can imagine why I'm ROFLing.

I don't speak French...why are you ROFLing?
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