Israel general discussion

[Silent Hunter]

That's a problem faced by nomadic groups across the world in an increasingly overcrowded planet, sadly.

[PSOL]

That's a problem faced by nomadic groups across the world in an increasingly overcrowded planet, sadly.

Except those areas aren’t wanted by people, but by energy companies to make a quick buck and a complicit ethnostate enabling it.

[Hnv1]

Nivin Abu Rahmon was sword in as MK for Joint List (balad), raising their tally of women to 3.

Though elections is right around the corner next after her are two Jewish women in Lea Zemmel (balad) and Noa Levy (Hadash).

[Meclazine for Israel]

Looks like Israel and Palestine are off to the races again.

Two stray missiles from the Palestinians with one landing in the ocean.

The response from Israel was swift. Over 24 sites bombed.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/10/17/middleeast/israel-gaza-tensions-intl/index.html

Hopefully the Palestinians will stop initiating violence.

It gives the Israeli's the moral high ground to do as they please afterwards.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Two stray missiles from the Palestinians with one landing in the ocean.

The missiles aren't "stray". The one landing in the ocean was a clear threat- it reached a long distance, and whoever launched it clearly tried to show that they can threaten Israel's center but didn't want to actually hit it. The other missile hit a family's home in the city of Be'er Sheva, exploding right inside the children's room. They were saved only because the mother took her three children to the safe room.

[Hnv1]

Jordan refused to continue the lease of some small enclaves of land to Israel due to public pressure. I doubt we'll see the legion stationed there soon, but the symbolic message is clear

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Jordan refused to continue the lease of some small enclaves of land to Israel due to public pressure. I doubt we'll see the legion stationed there soon, but the symbolic message is clear

Yes, it's "Get our territory back before the Israelis permanently take it."

[Silent Hunter]

Jordan refused to continue the lease of some small enclaves of land to Israel due to public pressure. I doubt we'll see the legion stationed there soon, but the symbolic message is clear

Which enclaves are these?

[Hnv1]

Jordan refused to continue the lease of some small enclaves of land to Israel due to public pressure. I doubt we'll see the legion stationed there soon, but the symbolic message is clear

Which enclaves are these?

[Silent Hunter]

How did these exclaves end up part of Jordan in the first place?

[Aboa]

How did these exclaves end up part of Jordan in the first place?

They are exclaves from Israeli point of view. 1994 peace treaty determined border between Jordan and Israel based on 1922 Trans-Jordan memorandum, this led to Israel returning said areas, which it had held since 1949 to Jordan. Jordan then leased the agricultural areas there to Israel.

[Silent Hunter]

Exclaves are weird...

[Tintrlvr]

Nivin Abu Rahmon was sword in as MK for Joint List (balad), raising their tally of women to 3.

Though elections is right around the corner next after her are two Jewish women in Lea Zemmel (balad) and Noa Levy (Hadash).

Balad has Jewish members? I thought only Hadash did of the Joint List parties.

[Hnv1]

Nivin Abu Rahmon was sword in as MK for Joint List (balad), raising their tally of women to 3.

Though elections is right around the corner next after her are two Jewish women in Lea Zemmel (balad) and Noa Levy (Hadash).

Balad has Jewish members? I thought only Hadash did of the Joint List parties.

Yes, Balad predecessor was even formed by a former Jewish ex general (Mati Peled)

[Intell]

Nivin Abu Rahmon was sword in as MK for Joint List (balad), raising their tally of women to 3.

Though elections is right around the corner next after her are two Jewish women in Lea Zemmel (balad) and Noa Levy (Hadash).

Balad has Jewish members? I thought only Hadash did of the Joint List parties.

Yes, Balad predecessor was even formed by a former Jewish ex general (Mati Peled)

The important question being why they're in balad or the joint list in general instead of Meretz.

[Hnv1]

Nivin Abu Rahmon was sword in as MK for Joint List (balad), raising their tally of women to 3.

Though elections is right around the corner next after her are two Jewish women in Lea Zemmel (balad) and Noa Levy (Hadash).

Balad has Jewish members? I thought only Hadash did of the Joint List parties.

Yes, Balad predecessor was even formed by a former Jewish ex general (Mati Peled)

The important question being why they're in balad or the joint list in general instead of Meretz.

Well there are differences between those parties and Meretz (certainly with Balad). And Meretz is a zionist party (by their definition), so leftist who don't consider themselves Zionists wouldn't want to be a part of it (usually)

[DavidB.]

Nivin Abu Rahmon was sword in as MK for Joint List (balad), raising their tally of women to 3.

Though elections is right around the corner next after her are two Jewish women in Lea Zemmel (balad) and Noa Levy (Hadash).

Balad has Jewish members? I thought only Hadash did of the Joint List parties.

Yes, Balad predecessor was even formed by a former Jewish ex general (Mati Peled)

Relative of Miko?

[Hnv1]

Nivin Abu Rahmon was sword in as MK for Joint List (balad), raising their tally of women to 3.

Though elections is right around the corner next after her are two Jewish women in Lea Zemmel (balad) and Noa Levy (Hadash).

Balad has Jewish members? I thought only Hadash did of the Joint List parties.

Yes, Balad predecessor was even formed by a former Jewish ex general (Mati Peled)

Relative of Miko?

His father

[danny]

Balad has Jewish members? I thought only Hadash did of the Joint List parties.

If your start looking for a person or a handful of people, then you will find a member of any large group in any party, that is just the nature of democracy and human nature. Just like you could find haredim voting for Meretz or someone secular voting UTJ, and an Arab for Jewish Home or Yachad and a Jew for Balad.

[Hnv1]

When personal politics covers constitutional crisis. (personal favorite political situation for me)

So yesterday Bibi's newspaper published a sensational piece about how President Rivlin and former Minister Saar planned to appoint the latter to form a government after the next elections (Where Bibi is anticipated to win in a landslide). Bibi certainly thinks its the case (or he's trying to capitalize on it), Rivlin and Saar both denied and practically called Bibi a psychopath. Bibi said they'll change the basic law so that the head of the biggest party will automatically have the mandate to try and form a government (or maybe only part heads could do so).
* on a personal note, I don't think this was genuily on the cards, but I wouldn't rule Rivlin doing so if it was the case in real time. He seems like to person to make the normative stand that a prime minister in the middle of massive corruption charges is unfit to serve (it definitely looks bad on the outside, every decision he makes appears to be related to his cases)

But underlying the personal political crisis is an interesting constitutional question.
de jure the basic law gives the president absolute discretion to choose any MK to form a government, but de facto it has to be the the head of a party and almost always the largest party. (similar to how the monarch can appoint a PM from the lords but it is essentially impossible in custom). Actually picking a random MK is of course politically impossible, but picking an MK from the biggest party with the rest of the parties agreeing is less problematic,** though it would be very problematic when the entire election campaign ran along the lines of the personality of the leader (as Bibi plans).
so basically it's not completely untenable just unlikely considering the political climate atm

Another thing to note here is that Bibi is becoming shameless in his desire to reign by bending constitutional norms to fit his personal will. This is a worrying sign, he's not going to go down without a fight and it will be dirty. 


**Eshkol essentially formed one of the last Ben Gurion governments as he was loathed by all of his partners

[SATW]

I want Ofer Berkovitch win the run off now that Elkin lost.

[Hnv1]

As Jackie Levi (Likud) was elected as mayor of Beit Shaan yesterday, Osnat Mark will be sworn in as an MK in his place.

[DavidB.]

Bolsonaro says he's still moving the embassy.


Jair Messias Bolsonaro
5 uur ·
- Como afirmado durante a campanha, pretendemos transferir a Embaixada do Brasil de Tel Aviv para Jerusalém. Israel é um Estado soberano e nós o respeitamos.
_________

- As previously stated during our campaign, we intend to transfer the Brazilian Embassy from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem. Israel is a sovereign state and we shall duly respect that.

[PSOL]

https://apnews.com/a3754f1bfd414e36aa14b92630ea1894

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[Tweedledum]

Bolsonaro says he's still moving the embassy.


Jair Messias Bolsonaro
5 uur ·
- Como afirmado durante a campanha, pretendemos transferir a Embaixada do Brasil de Tel Aviv para Jerusalém. Israel é um Estado soberano e nós o respeitamos.
_________

- As previously stated during our campaign, we intend to transfer the Brazilian Embassy from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem. Israel is a sovereign state and we shall duly respect that.

Good.