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« Reply #250 on: July 11, 2014, 12:22:36 PM »

new poll from Haaretz:

Likud: 25
Jewish Home: 16
Labour: 15
Yisrael Beitenu: 14
Yesh Atid: 13
Meretz: 10
Shas: 7
UTJ: 7
Livni: 4
"Arab parties": 9
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« Reply #251 on: July 12, 2014, 06:52:25 AM »

new poll from Haaretz:

Likud: 25
Jewish Home: 16
Labour: 15
Yisrael Beitenu: 14
Yesh Atid: 13
Meretz: 10
Shas: 7
UTJ: 7
Livni: 4
"Arab parties": 9
There's the "Kahloun" wild card still to play, and I hear whispers Herzog is scheming some schemes for due date as well. so as always Israeli polls mean nothing.
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« Reply #252 on: July 17, 2014, 04:51:25 PM »

Another poll from the Knesset channel:

Likud: 24
Jewish Home: 19
Labour: 15
Yesh Atid: 11
Meretz: 10
Yisrael Beitenu: 8
UTJ: 7
Shas: 6
Kachlon: 6
Livni: 5
RAAM-TAAL: 3
Hadash: 3
Balad: 3
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« Reply #253 on: July 25, 2014, 03:59:34 PM »
« Edited: July 25, 2014, 04:03:40 PM by swl »

For those who read the Israeli press in English, how would you define the political position of the Jerusalem Post? Which party is it the closest to? Or is mostly for readers in North-America rather than Israeli?

Also, what papers would supporters of Jewish Home usually read?
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« Reply #254 on: July 25, 2014, 10:48:54 PM »

Jewish Home supporters would read Makor Rishon, the National Religious newspaper.

Arutz Sheva (Channel 7) is the National Religious news channel, which also has a pretty extensive English language website.

You can tell their orientation because they both call the West Bank "Judea and Samaria" that's a right-wing shibboleth, just like if an American news source says "Democrat Party".

The Jerusalem Post is centrist to soft left. It was aligned with Labor and then Kadima. As there really isn't a left-wing opposition anymore it's kind of just floating around. It defends Netanyahu pretty hard against the right-wing of Likud but other than that is kind of generic, neo-liberal, two state solution supporter. I'm talking about their English coverage of course, I can't read Hebrew.
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« Reply #255 on: July 28, 2014, 01:06:51 AM »

Ariel Atias, one of the three leaders of Shas, resigned from the Knesset for no reason apparently.
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« Reply #256 on: July 29, 2014, 05:08:42 PM »

The leftiest English newspaper would be Times of Israel, Haaretz.com
I would call the Post centrist with a soft right tendency.

Regarding Makur Rishon, the elite/hardcore of the JH reads that the mass of voters probably read anything from Israel Hayum/Maariv/YH. By the way in an interesting twist of events Sheldon Edelson bought Makur Rishon recently and last week changed the entire board and editors.
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« Reply #257 on: July 29, 2014, 09:57:27 PM »

The leftiest English newspaper would be Times of Israel, Haaretz.com
I would call the Post centrist with a soft right tendency.

Regarding Makur Rishon, the elite/hardcore of the JH reads that the mass of voters probably read anything from Israel Hayum/Maariv/YH. By the way in an interesting twist of events Sheldon Edelson bought Makur Rishon recently and last week changed the entire board and editors.

Would it be far to say that people who were in the old NRP read Makur Rishon and most of the new supporters brought in by Bennett probably read Israel Hayum?
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« Reply #258 on: July 30, 2014, 06:24:16 AM »

The leftiest English newspaper would be Times of Israel, Haaretz.com
I would call the Post centrist with a soft right tendency.

Regarding Makur Rishon, the elite/hardcore of the JH reads that the mass of voters probably read anything from Israel Hayum/Maariv/YH. By the way in an interesting twist of events Sheldon Edelson bought Makur Rishon recently and last week changed the entire board and editors.

Would it be far to say that people who were in the old NRP read Makur Rishon and most of the new supporters brought in by Bennett probably read Israel Hayum?
To some degree, Tkuma people also read MR and Bennet himself comes from the heart of the old NRP not from the settlers elite. You will also find a large chunk of secular YH/Maariv readers amongst Bennet voters.
And I will also add 'Israel Hayum reader' is a pretty broad term. It is distributed for free on the train, buses, town centres so it's hard to  to have a strict range of readers (I read it on the train when I commute and I also have an Haaretz subscription), from lower middle class voters who read it as a prime media source I would say it's mostly Likud and some JH.
Makor Rishon was also not founded to be a masses paper, the idea was to create a right wing Haaretz (on the model of the frankfurt allgemein zeitung) hence it is less reachable for the everyday Joe without good formal education.
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« Reply #259 on: July 30, 2014, 09:07:22 AM »

Thank you both for your answers. Thanks to its prestige, many foreigners (including me) opt for Haaretz when they want news from Israel, but unfortunately it's not really representative of the current mood in the country.
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« Reply #260 on: July 31, 2014, 10:23:21 AM »

New Knesset channel poll:

Likud: 30
Jewish Home: 18
Labour: 15
Yesh Atid: 10
Meretz: 10
Shas: 9
Yisrael Beitenu: 8
UTJ: 7
Hatnua: 4
RAAM TAAL: 3
Balad: 3
Hadash: 3

Do you think Hanin Zouabi's citizenship should be revoked?

Yes: 78% (it only lists the yes, I couldn't find how many said no/don't know).
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« Reply #261 on: August 01, 2014, 08:31:23 AM »

New Knesset channel poll:

Likud: 30
Jewish Home: 18
Labour: 15
Yesh Atid: 10
Meretz: 10
Shas: 9
Yisrael Beitenu: 8
UTJ: 7
Hatnua: 4
RAAM TAAL: 3
Balad: 3
Hadash: 3

Do you think Hanin Zouabi's citizenship should be revoked?

Yes: 78% (it only lists the yes, I couldn't find how many said no/don't know).

War time polls are always right biased. I will wait for after the war we find out we lost 60+ troops for nothing, the blame game begins, and 2015 budget with the shock doctrine to pay for this war hits. I honestly think Bibi is done and dusted
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« Reply #262 on: August 01, 2014, 10:47:21 AM »

New Knesset channel poll:

Likud: 30
Jewish Home: 18
Labour: 15
Yesh Atid: 10
Meretz: 10
Shas: 9
Yisrael Beitenu: 8
UTJ: 7
Hatnua: 4
RAAM TAAL: 3
Balad: 3
Hadash: 3

Do you think Hanin Zouabi's citizenship should be revoked?

Yes: 78% (it only lists the yes, I couldn't find how many said no/don't know).

War time polls are always right biased. I will wait for after the war we find out we lost 60+ troops for nothing, the blame game begins, and 2015 budget with the shock doctrine to pay for this war hits. I honestly think Bibi is done and dusted

If Bibi is done, who could possibly take over?
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« Reply #263 on: August 02, 2014, 06:06:48 AM »

New Knesset channel poll:

Likud: 30
Jewish Home: 18
Labour: 15
Yesh Atid: 10
Meretz: 10
Shas: 9
Yisrael Beitenu: 8
UTJ: 7
Hatnua: 4
RAAM TAAL: 3
Balad: 3
Hadash: 3

Do you think Hanin Zouabi's citizenship should be revoked?

Yes: 78% (it only lists the yes, I couldn't find how many said no/don't know).

War time polls are always right biased. I will wait for after the war we find out we lost 60+ troops for nothing, the blame game begins, and 2015 budget with the shock doctrine to pay for this war hits. I honestly think Bibi is done and dusted

If Bibi is done, who could possibly take over?
I think we will either see Herzog with a team of generals around him, or maybe someother new star (Diskin?) The right traditionally takes a term to regroup around a new leader
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« Reply #264 on: August 08, 2014, 12:01:15 AM »

Channel 2 poll:

Likud: 23
Jewish Home: 15
Labour: 14
Yisrael Beitenu: 12
Yesh Atid: 10
Shas: 8
UTJ: 7
RAAM-TAAL, BALAD: 7 (the poll assumes they will merge)
Kachlon: 7
Meretz: 6
Hatnua: 6
Hadash: 5
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« Reply #265 on: August 16, 2014, 11:22:16 PM »

Another knesset channel poll:

Likud: 28
Jewish Home: 19
Labour: 15
Yesh Atid: 11
Meretz: 10
Yisrael Beitenu: 9
Shas: 7
UTJ: 7
Hatnua: 4
Hadash:4
RAAM-TAAL: 3
Balad: 3

Are you pleased with the conduct of Prime Minister Netanyahu during the  Cairo negotiations?
52% No
33% Yes

Should Israel cooperate with the UN inquiry commission?

Yes: 35%
no: 55%

Will the UN inquiry commission be fair or are the conclusions known ahead of time?

91% Conclusions leaning towards the Palestinians
2% Conclusions will be fair

Should Israel conduct direct negotiations with Hamas regarding the Gaza Strip?
69% No
21% Yes

Should Israel agree to ease the blockade on Gaza?
76% No, 18% Yes

Which candidate is most fit to be Prime Minister?
30% Prime Minister Netanyahu, 16% Economy Minister Bennett, 11% Oppositon Leader Herzog, 6% Foreign Minister Liberman, 6% Justice Minister Livni, 3% Defense Minister Yaalon, 3% Finance Minister Lapid. 25% – None of them.
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« Reply #266 on: August 16, 2014, 11:52:13 PM »

3% for Lapid is terrible for him. Does that mean basically all the people who support Yesh Atid in the party poll are Netanyahu supporters?
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« Reply #267 on: August 17, 2014, 05:28:32 AM »

3% for Lapid is terrible for him. Does that mean basically all the people who support Yesh Atid in the party poll are Netanyahu supporters?
No. some trend Likud and some Meretz or even JH (meretz gains are of YT voters not Labour which is interesting). But I think most people who said they would still vote YT will admit Lapid will be an incompetent leader. Too many slip ups, looks too fresh and not very bright, self-righteous.
The amount of hate he gets from the left is truly amazing (and by my account deserved), I don't recall a centre leader so despised by the left. People would really rather see Bibi reign then him. In the right they view him as a buffoon. 
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« Reply #268 on: August 28, 2014, 07:03:03 AM »

2 new polls:

Knesset Channel (without the new 3.25% bar):
Likud - 27
JH - 19
Labour -15
Lapid - 12
Liberman - 9
Meretz - 9
Shas - 8
UTJ - 7
Livni - 4
Hadash - 4
Balad - 3
Ra'am - 3
Kadima - 0

Haaretz poll:
Likud - 26
JH - 17
Labour -14
Lapid - 12
Liberman - 11
UTJ - 8
Meretz - 7
Shas - 7
Hadash - 6
Livni - 4
Balad - 4
Ra'am - 4
Kadima - 0

Satisfied with the conduct of:
Bibi - satisfied 50% dissatisfied 41%
Boogi (MoD) - satisfied 55% dissatisfied 35%
Liberman - satisfied 29% dissatisfied 59%

Views on the outcome of the operatiom:
54% neither of the sides won
26% Israel won
16% Hamas won
4% don't know
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« Reply #269 on: September 08, 2014, 10:47:07 AM »

Knesset channel poll:

Likud: 28
Jewish Home: 19
Labour: 15
Yeah Atid: 10
Yisrael Beitenu: 10
Meretz: 9
UTJ: 8
Shas: 7
Hatnua: 4
Hadash: 4
RAAM: 3
Balad: 3
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« Reply #270 on: September 09, 2014, 02:45:02 PM »

What happened to Hatnuah anyway? I quite liked Livni and it's sad to see her languishing near threshold level.
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« Reply #271 on: September 09, 2014, 08:13:31 PM »

What happened to Hatnuah anyway? I quite liked Livni and it's sad to see her languishing near threshold level.

1 Yes Atid
2 Joining the Netanyahu government.
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« Reply #272 on: September 09, 2014, 10:24:14 PM »

If Livni wants to be in the next Knesset, she probably has to withdraw from the government prior to the elections, perhaps sometime next year. It worked for Labor, 2011-2013, and in a reverse example, Yisrael Beiteinu 2008-2009.
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« Reply #273 on: September 09, 2014, 10:42:10 PM »

Or she'll just merge with Labor.
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« Reply #274 on: September 09, 2014, 10:56:41 PM »


She can't do that if she's in the government and Labor's in the opposition...
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