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« Reply #175 on: October 12, 2012, 02:55:32 AM »
« edited: October 12, 2012, 03:30:02 AM by danny »

Massive fall for Kadima, eh? Does that have something to do with that short lived coalition with Likud they were involved in earlier in the year, perhaps?

Unfortunate that Likud has such a firm lead.

that is only one factor of many, see this link for more.
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« Reply #176 on: October 12, 2012, 03:22:07 AM »

How are some of the smaller, newer parties doing (obviously not counting Yesh Atid, we know about them)? Things like Atzmaut (Barak's party), Tikun (apparently, Aryeh Deri was forming a party), Am Shalem (some random Shas breakoff), and that weird Arab Zionist party Wikipedia has an article on founded by an ex-Arab member of Likud named Sarhan Bader (he's calling it the Israeli Arab Nationalist Party)?

Atzmaut- some of the polls give it the minimum 2 seats, some have it failing to pass the minimum threshold.

Aryeh Deri- It is looking more likely that Deri rejoins Shas.

Am Shalem- Is currently in talks about merging with the Jewish Home and National Union to create a broad religious Zionist party.

Sarhan Bader- I have never heard of him, so I searched google. There doesn't seem to be anything about him except for that wikipedia article which comes from a Jerusalem post article about him. Looking in Hebrew only gave a an article where he's in a list of candidates running for elections in his village council, but nothing to say that he ever actually founded a party. maybe there is more about him in Arabic, but I am not optimistic.
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« Reply #177 on: October 12, 2012, 06:27:15 PM »
« Edited: October 12, 2012, 06:32:20 PM by danny »

The Jerusalem Post managed to get Likud to "lose" the election, by combining Olmert-Livni-Lapid-Kadima:

New Centrist Party: 31
Likud: 27
Yisrael Beitenu: 14
Labour: 12
Shas: 11
UTJ: 6
National Union: 4
Jewish Home: 4
Hadash: 4
UAL-TAAL: 4
Balad: 3

(Meretz and the independence party don't pass the electoral threshold).
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« Reply #178 on: October 16, 2012, 04:48:02 AM »

New poll by Walla:

Likud: 30
Labour: 19
Yesh Atid: 14
Yisrael Beitenu: 12
Shas: 9
Kadima: 6
UTJ: 6
Jewish Home: 5
Meretz: 5
Hadash: 4
UAL-TAAL: 4
Balad: 3
National Union: 2
Independence: 1

With an Olmert-Livni-Mofaz-Lapid party:

Likud : 29
New Centre Party: 23
Labour:18
Yisrael Beitenu: 12
Shas: 9
UTJ: 6
Jewish Home: 5
Meretz: 4
Hadash: 4
UAL-TAAL: 4
Balad: 3
National Union: 2
Independence: 1
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« Reply #179 on: April 29, 2013, 09:03:12 AM »

A marriage poll from mako:

Do you support civil marriage in Israel:
Yes: 71.5%
No: 23.8%
No opinion: 4.7%

Do you support same-sex marriage in Israel:
Yes: 55%
No: 38.4%
No opinion: 6.6%

Do you think same-sex marriages should be allowed as part of the Rabbinate:
Yes: 25.8%
No: 59.6%
No opinion: 14.6%
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« Reply #180 on: April 29, 2013, 12:05:30 PM »

Regardless of how people feel, none of this is happening any time soon.
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« Reply #181 on: April 30, 2013, 02:38:12 PM »

A figure support civil marriage crossing 70% really show evidence to the case that is a cross spectrum consensus from left to right and we are truly being ran by the religious minority.

The 55% support for gay marriage is a pleasant surprise...soon enough we'll have a gay mayor to Tel Aviv as well, I suspect the archaic discriminating marriage laws in Israel are done for and they will be abolished in the very near future 
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« Reply #182 on: August 30, 2013, 12:44:40 PM »

Time to revive this thread with a new poll from Globes:

Likud Beitenu: 33
Labour: 18
Jewish Home: 13
Yesh Atid: 12
Meretz: 11
Shas: 10
UTJ: 8
The Movement: 4
Hadash: 4
RAAM-TAAL: 4
Balad: 3
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« Reply #183 on: August 30, 2013, 01:07:47 PM »

Meretz at 11% with Labour and Hadash stable? Encouraging.
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« Reply #184 on: August 30, 2013, 01:10:20 PM »

Meretz at 11% with Labour and Hadash stable? Encouraging.

11 seats, rather than 11%. That's about 8-9% or so.
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« Reply #185 on: August 30, 2013, 01:21:53 PM »

Aw yeah, can't get used to polling figures by seats.
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« Reply #186 on: August 30, 2013, 05:02:51 PM »

"Right-religious" majority (as defined in the 2013 campaign), 64-56. The government as it is formed today (right-religious, minus Shas and UTJ, plus Yesh Atid and the Movement) has only 52 seats. This would basically be a shift from today's government to a 2009-2013 government, with a religious cohort instead of a centrist one and Netanyahu staying as PM. Ironically Israel's current party system is much like Germany's, where the right side of the spectrum has temporarily become dominant and voters get the choice between empowering the "center-left" to form a coalition with them (Yesh Atid/SPD) or an "unusual right" (religious in Israel (Shas), libertarianish in Germany (FDP)).
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« Reply #187 on: August 30, 2013, 06:13:40 PM »
« Edited: August 30, 2013, 06:26:22 PM by danny »

Keep in mind that the minimum threshold is in the process of being raised from 2% to 4%, so small parties will have to merge to pass it, which means that the parties won't look the same in the next election (not that they ever do anyway...).
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« Reply #188 on: August 31, 2013, 05:33:38 AM »

Keep in mind that the minimum threshold is in the process of being raised from 2% to 4%, so small parties will have to merge to pass it, which means that the parties won't look the same in the next election (not that they ever do anyway...).
Most people and MKs I spoke with are fairly certain the bar won't be passed to 4% but to 2.5-3%
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« Reply #189 on: October 18, 2013, 05:10:00 AM »
« Edited: October 18, 2013, 02:05:28 PM by danny »

New poll from Haaretz:

Favourability (Last months poll in brackets):

Bibi:
favourable: 44% (45%)
unfavourable: 43% (45%)

Lapid:
favourable: 14% (25%)
unfavourable: 75% (63%) LOL...

Boogey ya'alon:
favourable: 46% (54%)
unfavourable: 16% (20%)


Who is the most suitable to be prime minister?
Bibi: 63% (56%)
Shelly: 12% (15%)
Lapid: 5% (7%)

How would you define Bibi's handling of the Iranian issue on the world stage?
very good: 17%
good: 41%
not so good: 23%
not good at all: 9%
don't know: 10%

Knesset seats:
Likud: 32 (31)
Labour: 17 (17)
Jewish Home: 15 (15)
Meretz: 12 (10)
Yesh Atid: 10 (16)
Shas: 10 (8 )
UTJ: 6 (7)
The Movement: 5 (3)
UAL: 5 (5)
Hadash: 4 (5)
Kadima: 2 (2)
Balad: 2 (2)
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« Reply #190 on: October 18, 2013, 01:36:33 PM »

Why is Lapid so unpopular? Is it because of his coalition with Bibi, or a different reason?
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« Reply #191 on: October 18, 2013, 06:21:33 PM »

He's Israel's very own Nick Clegg.
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« Reply #192 on: October 18, 2013, 06:32:39 PM »


If there's any consolation with this coalition, it's how Clegg has become a verb. 
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« Reply #193 on: October 18, 2013, 06:34:10 PM »


If there's any consolation with this coalition, it's how Clegg has become a verb. 

See, it has a cultural legacy that isn't entirely destructive!
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« Reply #194 on: October 18, 2013, 06:44:08 PM »

Why is Lapid so unpopular? Is it because of his coalition with Bibi, or a different reason?

It's a tradition for Centrist parties to rise and fall quickly, so this is normal. Add to that the fact that he is finance minister, which means that you're the face of any tax hikes or spending cuts.
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« Reply #195 on: October 18, 2013, 10:24:48 PM »

Why is Lapid so unpopular? Is it because of his coalition with Bibi, or a different reason?

It's a tradition for Centrist parties to rise and fall quickly, so this is normal. Add to that the fact that he is finance minister, which means that you're the face of any tax hikes or spending cuts.
And you're forgetting that Orthodox Jews hate him for being out of government.
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« Reply #196 on: October 19, 2013, 03:30:10 AM »

Why is Lapid so unpopular? Is it because of his coalition with Bibi, or a different reason?

It's a tradition for Centrist parties to rise and fall quickly, so this is normal. Add to that the fact that he is finance minister, which means that you're the face of any tax hikes or spending cuts.
And you're forgetting that Orthodox Jews hate him for being out of government.

You mean ultra-orthodox, but they never liked him in the first place, even when he was popular.
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« Reply #197 on: October 19, 2013, 10:47:02 AM »

Still a great figure nonetheless.
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« Reply #198 on: November 28, 2013, 08:01:00 AM »

Knesset channel poll, first one after the rise of Herzog.

Likud - 35
Labour -19
Meretz - 13 (!! new record)
JH - 12
Lapid - 10
Shas - 10
UTJ - 6
Livni - 4
Hadash - 4
Islamic movement - 4
Balad - 3
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« Reply #199 on: November 28, 2013, 10:49:15 AM »

Knesset channel poll, first one after the rise of Herzog.

Likud - 35
Labour -19
Meretz - 13 (!! new record)
JH - 12
Lapid - 10
Shas - 10
UTJ - 6
Livni - 4
Hadash - 4
Islamic movement - 4
Balad - 3
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