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« on: November 06, 2011, 01:57:52 AM »
« edited: November 06, 2011, 02:21:02 AM by Hermit »

Dennis Kucinich (1946-1978)
US Representative from OH-23 (1973-1977)
Mayor of Cleveland (1977-1978)
- assassinated (mafia plot)
Ron Paul (1935-)
US Rep. from TX-22 (1975-1985)
Libertarian Party nominee for president (1990)
US Rep. from TX-14 (1997-2009)
Reform Party nominee for president (2010) - running-mate - W. Mitt Romney
US Senator from Texas (2013-)

Kevin White (1929-)
MA Secretary of State (1960-1967)
Mayor of Boston (1967-1971)
Governor of Massachussets (1971-1979)
Mayor of Boston (1979-1983)

Ken Blackwell (1948-)
US Rep. from OH-1 (1985-1994)
Ohio State Treasurer (1994-1999)
Ohio State Secretary (1999-2007)
GOP nominee for OH Governor (2006)
RNC Chairman (2009-2011)
GOP nominee for Senate (2010)
US Senator from Ohio (2013-)
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 05:24:31 PM »

George HW Bush
US Represenatative from TX-7 (1967-1971)
US Senator from Texas (1971-1979)
Vice President of the United States (1979-1983)
Republican Party nominee for President (1986)-running mate-Robert Dole
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 08:42:38 PM »

H. Ross Perot
Party:
Independent (?-1979
Republican (1979-?)
Career:
United States Congressman from Texas' 4th Congressional District (January 3rd, 1981-January 3rd, 1985)
United States Senator from Texas (January 3rd, 1985-December 16th, 1996)
Chairman of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations (January 3rd, 1995-December 15th, 1996)
United States Secretary of State (January 21st, 1997-June 23rd, 2002) under Barry Goldwater Jr.

Richard B. Cheney
Party:
Republican
Career:
Deputy White House Chief of Staff (1973-1974)
First United States Official Envoy to China (November 9th, 1974-January 5th, 1977)
United States Congressman from Wyoming's At-Large Congressional District (January 3rd, 1979-January 3rd, 2001)
Chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee (January 3rd, 1995-January 3rd, 2001)
United States Secretary of State (January 20th, 2005-November 5th, 2006) under George W. Bush

Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Party:
Democrat
Career:
First United States Secretary of Urban Affairs (June 1st, 1966-January 20th, 1973) under John F. Kennedy
United States Permanent Representative to NATO (January 25th, 1973-May 18th, 1974)
Governor of New York (January 1st, 1975-January 31st, 1986)
42nd President of the United States of America (January 20th, 1989-January 20th, 1997)

Jimmy Carter
Party:
Democrat
Career:
Member of the Georgia State Senate (January 14th, 1961-January 10th, 1967)
75th Governor of Georgia (January 11th, 1967-January 12th, 1971)
77th Governor of Georgia (January 14th, 1975-November 17th, 1976)
41st Vice-President of the United States of America (January 20th, 1977-January 20th, 1981) under Robert F. Kennedy
4th United States Secretary of Energy (August 14th, 1985-January 20th, 1989) under Mark Hatfield
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2011, 09:12:17 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2011, 10:25:27 PM by RodPresident »

Jon Huntsman, Jr.
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Commerce (1989-1993)
US Ambassador to Singapore (1992-1993)

During Healthcare Debate in 90s, after Clinton compromised over abortion, but due to Republican intransigence, he announces that he and his father will switch allegiances from GOP to Democratic Party. He becomes a leader for DLC.
US Representative from UT-2 (1997-2006): Member of Committees of Foreign Affairs and Education and the Workforce
US Senator from Utah (2007-2016): Member of Committee of Foreign Relations, Commerce and Health, Education, Labor and Pensions and Special Commitee on Aging (chairman from 2015 to 2016)
President of the United States; w/Vice-President Kay Hagan (2017-2025)
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2011, 02:28:10 PM »

Martin Luther King Jr.
US Senator from Georgia (1973-1979)
Democratic Party Vice Presidential candidate, 1980
Failed 1984 Democratic Presidential primary campaign.


George Wallace
Governor of Alabama (1959-1963)
US Representative from AL-5 (1965-1969)

American Indepence Party nominee for President, 1968
American Indepence Party nominee for President, 1972

US Senator from Alabama (1979-1991)
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2011, 03:27:26 PM »

Rise of Progressivism

Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
Party:
Republican (?-1913)
Progressive (1913-1942)
Career:
Major in World War I (1916-1917)
-United States Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Robert Todd Lincoln (June 14th, 1917-March 4th, 1921) under Theodore Roosevelt
-Governor of New York (January 1st, 1923-December 31st, 1928)
-United States Secretary of War (November 18th, 1930-April 5th, 1934) under Calvin Coolidge, Charles Bryan, and John Davis
-United States Senator from New York (January 3rd, 1935-December 30th, 1936)
-34th President of the United States of America (January 4th, 1937-May 23rd, 1942) [Death]

Henry Wallace
Party:
Progressive
-Governor of Iowa (January 12th, 1931-January 2nd, 1935)
-United States Secretary of Agriculture (January 4th, 1937-January 4th, 1941) under Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
-Vice-President of the United States (January 4th, 1941-May 23rd, 1942) under Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
-35th President of the United States of America (May 23rd, 1942-January 4th, 1949)

Franklin D Roosevelt
Party:
Democrat (?-1916)
Progressive (1916-1950)
Career:
-Member of the New York State Senate (January 1st, 1911-March  17th, 1915)
-United States Assitant Secretary of the Navy for Robert Todd Lincoln (March 18th, 1915-June 14th, 1917) under Theodore Roosevelt
-United States Postmaster General (June 20th, 1917-March 4th, 1921) under Theodore Roosevelt
-1920 Progressive Party nominee for Vice-President (lost)
-United States Senator from New York (January 3rd, 1923-December 30th, 1928)
-Governor of New York (January 1st, 1929-December 31st, 1936)
-United States Secretary of the Navy (January 4th, 1937-July 18th, 1938) under Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
-United States Secretary of War (July 18th, 1938-June 9th, 1942) under Theodore Roosevelt Jr., Henry Wallace
-Vice-President of the United States of America (June 11th, 1942-January 4th, 1945) [Death] under Henry Wallace
-Ambassador to the Leauge of Nations (January 4th, 1945-September 11th, 1950) under Henry Wallace, Dwight D. Eisenhower
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2011, 03:31:23 PM »

Ronald Reagan
Party: Progressive (?-1978), Independent (1978-2004)
Career:
-President of the Screen Actors' Guild (1948-1952, 1958)
-United States Senator from California (January 4th, 1965-January 4th, 1977)
-Failed candidate for the Progressive Party nomination (1972, 1976)
-Ambassador to the Leauge of Nations (January 4th, 1981-December 7th, 1986) under John Ashbrook, James L. Buckley
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2011, 09:07:12 PM »

Still the Rise of Progressivism
NOTE: ITTL, Catholics go over to the Conservative Party in the late twenties following a takeover of the Democrats by Southern Populists. Therefore, the Kennedys, unlikely as I view it in RL, are in the Conservative Party ITTL. Had it not been for William H. Murray, they likely would have remained Democrats until the party collapsed, and maybe even joined the Progressives. Or maybe the party wouldn't have collapsed.

Joseph P Kennedy Jr.
Party: Conservative
Career:
-Congressman from Massachusetts' 11th Congressional District (January 4th, 1945-January 1st, 1947)
-Governor of Massachusetts (January 2nd, 1947-January 2nd, 1953)
-Vice-President of the United States of America (January 4th, 1953-July 3rd, 1953) under Robert Taft
-38th President of the United States of America (July 3rd, 1953-January 4th,1961)
Summary:
Son of former Secretary of State (1926-1929) and Governor of Massachusetts (1937-1941) Joseph P. Kennedy Sr., hero pilot of the Second Great War Joe Jr. would have large shoes to fill upon his return to America in 1943. Elected Congressman in 1944 as many other young veterans (notably Conservatives Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford) did, he would soon be on the fast-track for a spot on the 1952 Conservative party ticket. Taft, in order to appease Catholics and North-Easterners rather than Southerners that time around, would choose the young and vibrant Kennedy, a contrast to Taft's own stiffness. With President Taft's stomach cancer however, he would die, creating "the saddest 4th of July in American history), leaving the young and able Kennedy in charge. Proving to be a Conservative version of Teddy Roosevelt, he would become one of America's most popular leaders, winning re-sounding re-election in 1956, but, surprisingly, declining re-nomination in 1960, handing the nomination off to Vice-President Nixon.

Richard M. Nixon
Party: Conservative
Career:
-Congressman from California's 12th Congressional District (January 4th, 1945-January 4th, 1951)
-United States Senator from California (January 4th, 1951-January 5th, 1953)
-United States Secretary of War (January 5th, 1953-May 19th, 1954) under Robert Taft, Joe Kennedy Jr.
-Governor of California (January 5th, 1955-December 19th, 1956)
-Vice-President of the United States of America (January 4th, 1957-January 4th, 1961) under Joe Kennedy Jr.
-United States Senator from California (January 4th, 1963-January 4th, 1969)
-Ambassador to the League of Nations (January 4th, 1973-January 4th, 1977) under Howard Baker

Earl Warren
Party: Republican, Progressive
Career:
-Alameda County District Attorney (1925-1937)
-United States Assitant Attorney General (January 19th, 1937-June 3rd, 1938)
-United States Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Franklin D. Roosevelt (June 3rd, 1938-July 20th, 1938) under Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
-Acting Secretary of the Navy (July 18th, 1938-July 20th, 1938)
-United States Secretary of the Navy (July 20th, 1938-June 5th, 1940)
-United States Senator from California (Janyary 4th, 1941-November 25th, 1944)
-United States Vice-President of the United States of America (January 4th, 1945-January 4th, 1949) under Henry Wallace
-United States Attorney General (January 4th, 1961-June 23rd, 1969) under Hubert H. Humphrey

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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2011, 09:20:28 PM »

different universe...

John Ellis Bush
Party:
Republican
Career:
-United States Assistant Secretary of Energy (July 7th, 1985- March 5th, 1986) under Mark Hatfield
-United States Ambassador to Mexico (March 19th, 1986-January 20th, 1989) under Mark Hatfield
-United States Congressman from Florida (January 3rd, 1991-January 17th, 1997)
-United States Ambassador to Mexico (January 20th, 1997-July 14th, 1998) Barry Goldwater Jr.
-Governor of Florida (January 5th, 1999-December 4th, 2006)
-United States Secretary of State (December 29th, 2006-January 20th, 2007) under George W. Bush
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2011, 12:57:49 AM »

From a TL I'm in the early stages of planning...

Edward Moore Kennedy
United States Senator from Massachusetts, 1962-1989
Secretary of State under President [redacted], 1989-1993
Special Advisor to British Prime Minister [redacted], 1993-1994
President of the United States, 1997-1999†

Dorothy Ann Willis Richards

Texas State Treasurer, 1983-1991
Governor of Texas, 1991-1997
Vice President of the United States, 1997-1999
President of the United States, 1999-?
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2011, 05:04:49 PM »

Ralph Nader

United States Senator from Connecticut-1971-1977
Secretary of Energy-1977-1978
Secretary of Housing-1978
Secretary of Commerce-1978-1981
Governor of Connecticut-1983-1991

Reform Party nominee for President, 2004.
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2011, 10:06:29 PM »

Nelson Rockefeller
Party: Progressive
Career:
-Assitant Secretary of the Navy for Earl Warren (February 17th, 1939-May 19th, 1940) under Theodore Roosevelt Jr.
-Assistant Secretary of War for Franklin D. Roosevelt (May 20th, 1940-June 9th, 1942)
-United States Secretary of War (June 9th, 1942-January 31st, 1942) under Henry Wallace
-Ambassador to the League of Nations (May 8th, 1943-January 4th, 1945) under Henry Wallace
-105th Mayor of New York City (January 1st, 1946-December 31st, 1953)
-Governor of New York State (January 1st, 1955-December 5th, 1960)
-39th President of the United States of America (January 4th, 1961-November 22nd, 1963)
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2011, 10:28:07 AM »
« Edited: November 27, 2011, 03:27:28 AM by Hermit »

The Southern Pack!
Buddy Roemer (1943-)
Governor of Louisiana (1987-1995)
U.S. Senator from Louisiana (2005-)


Charlie Crist (1956-)
Florida State Senator (1987-1999)
U.S. Senator from Florida (1999-2005)
Governor of Florida (2007-2011)
Candidate for U.S. Senate from Florida (2010)


Bobby Jindal (1971-)
Governor of Louisiana (2003-2007, 2011-2015)
U.S. Senator from Louisiana (2009-2011, 2015-)

Jeb Bush (1953-)
Governor of Florida (1995-2003)
U.S. Senator from Florida (2007-)


John Breaux (1944-)
U.S. Representative from Louisiana's 7th district (1972-1985)
U.S. Senator from Louisiana (1987-1999)
Governor of Louisiana (2007-2011)
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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2011, 05:42:13 PM »

Sarah Heath
Member of Alaska State House, 15th district (1992-1996)
Mayor of Wasilla (1996-2004)
Governor of Alaska (2007-2011)
US Senator for Alaska (2011- )
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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2011, 08:44:37 PM »

Dick Randolph
Party: Libertarian
Career:
Member of the Alaska House of Representatives (1971-1975)
Member of the Alaska House of Representatives (1979-1982)
5th Governor of Alaska (December 6th, 1982-December 1st, 1986)
Libertarian candidate for President of the United States of America, 1988 [Unsuccessful]
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2011, 09:58:07 PM »

John Bolton
Assistant Attorney General of the United States (1985-1989)
Attorney General of the United States (1989-1991)
US Ambassador to Israel (1993-1995)
US Ambassador to Libya (1995-1996)
US Ambassador to Zaire (1996)
US special envoy to North Korea (1996)
US Ambassador to Iraq (1996-2000)
US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia (2000-2003)
US Ambassador to Iraq (2003-2005)
US Ambassador to Israel (2005-2007)
US Ambassador to the United Nations (2007-2009)
Candidate for the Republican Presidential nomination, 2012.
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« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2011, 04:20:45 PM »

Alternate alternate careers.

Jefferson Dent (born 1938)

1968: A failed joke Senate candidate
1969-present: A high profile ambulance chaser
1972-present: An alcoholic
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2011, 04:52:40 PM »

Bob Dole (1923-present)
US Representative from KS-1 (1961-1969)
US Senator from Kansas (1969-1975)
Secretary of Agriculture (1980-1989)
US Senator from Kansas (1993-1999)


Bill Clinton (1946-present)
US Representative from AK-3 (1975-1981)
US Senator from Arkansas (1981-1993)
Failed bid for Democratic presidential nomination (1988)
Failed bid for Democratic presidential nomination (1992)
Governor of Arkansas (1997-2005)


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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2012, 11:00:30 AM »

William J. "Bill" Clinton
Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Arkansas' 3rd District: 1975-1998
House Minority Whip: 1989-1993
House Minority Leader: 1993-1995
Speaker of the United States House of Representatives: 1995-1998
Candidate for the Democratic Presidential Nomination: 2012

Newton L. "Newt" Gingrich
Candidate for the 6th Congressional District of Georgia: 1978 (Lost)
Attorney General of Georgia: 1979-1983
Governor of Georgia: 1983-1987
Republican Nominee for Governor of Georgia: 1986 (Lost)
Governor of Georgia: 1991-1993
President of the United States: 1993-2001
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2012, 12:30:53 PM »

From my Bull Moose Goes Down TL (SPOILER):
J. Robert "Bob" Kerrey (August 27, 1943 - )
U.S. Secretary of Veterans Affairs (January 21, 2005 - January 3, 2009)
U.S. Senator from Nebraska (January 3, 2009 - )
                                            (January 3, 1989 – January 3, 2001)
Governor of Nebraska (January 6, 1983 – January 9, 1987)
Party: Progressive

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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2012, 12:36:30 PM »

Nice reversal, TNF. I'd love to see a timeline made out of that. Smiley (by the way, are you an alternatehistory.com?)
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« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2012, 12:56:46 PM »

Barack Hussein Obama II (1961-2002)

Born to a black father and a white mother, Obama was born in Hawaii but moved to Kenya as a child after his mother's death in a car crash (Obama Sr. wasn't a deadbeat). In 1982, a military coup backed by the CIA overthrew the left-leaning president at the time. However, by the Clinton administration, the regime showed signs of weakness. The young Barack was among the leaders of the revolution which toppled the junta and formed a provisional government, which held democratic elections a month later. Barack Obama was inaugurated as the new president in 1999, but sadly assassinated in 2002 by a former military officer who supported the old military government. Obama's main achievements in office included work with U.S. presidents Bill Clinton and Al Gore to fight AIDS, and improving Kenyan infrastructure, and despite his short leadership is widely considered among the best leaders in modern African history.
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« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2012, 05:44:51 PM »

Martin Sheen

Actor (1967-1987)
Member of the US House from New Hampshire (1989-1995)
Governor of New Hampshire (1995-1999)
President of the United States (2001-2009)

Tongue I may actually do this
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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2012, 05:56:54 PM »

Martin Sheen

Actor (1967-1987)
Member of the US House from New Hampshire (1989-1995)
Governor of New Hampshire (1995-1999)
President of the United States (2001-2009)

Tongue I may actually do this

He actually did this, under a pseudonym.
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« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2012, 06:01:42 PM »

Martin Sheen

Actor (1967-1987)
Member of the US House from New Hampshire (1989-1995)
Governor of New Hampshire (1995-1999)
President of the United States (2001-2009)

Tongue I may actually do this

He actually did this, under a pseudonym.

I'm aware of this, but I want to make it real.
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