New Office of Secretary of Forum Affairs

[StevenNick]

Sorry this took so long.  Now that I have my three preliminary lists up I can start updating them on a regular basis.

Registration by District

District 1
AndrewBerger   UP   NY
BacardiLimon   D   PA
Bergie72*   UAC   PA
Boss Tweed   EP   NY
Bullmoose88   I   PA
Chiahead   R   PA
ColinW   R   PA
Danwxman   D   PA
Defarge   D   NY
EarlAW   D   NY
Erc   R   NY
Huckleberry Finn   I   NY
J.J.   R   PA
Julien   D   PA
Kemperor   I   NY
Keystone Phil   R   PA
Lawrence Watson*   D   PA
LordTraldan   D   PA
Nation   UP   NY
nini2287   D   PA
NYGOP*   UAC   NY
Patrick1   R   NY
Red Button   D   NY
Romeomustdie   D   NY
Silent Hunter*   UAC   NY
Supersoulty   AF   PA
ShapeShifter*   O   NY
Smash255   D   NY
TheBulldog   D   NY
True Democrat   D   PA
Volrath50*   I   NY


District 2
Akno21   D   MD
Alcaeus*   D   DE
badnarikin04   L   NH
Blerpiez   FL   MA
Bono   R   NH
Cashcow   D   NJ
DanielX   O   MD
Dazzleman*   R   CT
Ethelberth   D   ME
I-Spy   I   MD
Jens   UL   RI
Kevinstat   D   ME
MAS117   UP   NJ
Michael Z   UL   DC
NHPolitico*   R   NH
NickG   UL   MD
Old Europe   I   MA
RedefeatBush04   D   NJ
Republicanjew18*   R   NJ
Siege40   UL   ME
silentmajority37   D   NJ
Sulfur*   R   NH
Umengus*   D   VT
Zachman   UL   NH


District 3
9iron*   R   MI
Acsenray   D   OH
Al   FL   WV
AuH20*   R   VA
Ben   UP   VA
BRTD   UL   MN
Dabeav   L   MN
DemRepDan   O   IL
English*   D   MN
Fritz   D   MN
Gustaf   AF   MN
ILikeVerin   FL   MN
Kodratos   FL   IL
KucinichForPrez   O   MI
Liberty   I   VA
MasterJedi   R   WI
MHS2002   R   VA
Nym90   D   MI
Owl   I   ND
Peter Bell   I   IN
Philip   UP   VA
Polkergeist   I   ND
Rococo4*   R   OH
Ronald Reagan   R   OH
sanstrom54014   D   WI
Texasgurl   D   WI


District 4
Democratic 'Hawk'   D   GA
Dubya2004   L   GA
CheeseWhiz   R   FL
Ernest   UP   SC
Franklin D. Roosevelt   I   FL
George W Bush   R   TX
Harry   D   MS
Htmldon   UP   TN
John Dibble   L   GA
Josh22   AF   NC
KatieG   SRP   MS
LesterMaddox   R   GA
Matt   R   MS
ncjake*   R   FL
Nclib   D   NC
Niles Caulder*   I   TX
Q   O   GA
SamSpade   SRP   LA
StatesRights   SRP   FL
Storebought   O   LA
Swarch*   L   TX
WiseGuy   R   FL
WMS   AF   NM


District 5
Aflietch*   D   WA
Alcon   D   SD
Blunderstorm   FL   MT
Bob   I   OR
Clay   I   IA
Doug D Wise*   D   MT
Freedomburns*   UL   CA
Gabu   D   WA
Hughento   I   OR
Jesus   O   WA
John   EP   IA
John F Kennedy   I   CA
John Ford   AF   CA
J-Mann   AF   KS
Karl   EP   IA
khirkhib*   UL   OR
King   UP   NV
Lewis Trondheim   UL   HI
Moorein08   R   ID
Mr Fresh   R   ID
Mr. Hobbes   UP   CA
PBrunsel   R   IA
phknrocket1k   D   CA
Reignman*   D   WA
StevenNick   R   WA
tkwrinklefiber*   D   CA
Vincent   I   AZ
WildCard   AF   CA


Party Abbreviations
AF- Atlas Freedom Party
D- Democratic Party
FL- Farmer Labor Party
I- Independent (no party)
L- Libertarian Party
O- other party
R- Republican Party
SRP- Southern Republican/States Rights Party
UAC- United Atlas Centrist Party
UL- United Left Party
UP- Constitutional Union Party

[minionofmidas]

In my recent reading of the constitution (I have read numerous times now in an attempt to better prepare myself for the job I now hold) I realized that there is a gigantic loophole in the constitution regarding voting requirements.  The following passage is found in the Voting Requirements article of the Constitution:

"No one who has attained eighteen posts, is an active member of the forum, and has established an avatar from the United States for at least the time span of the election shall be denied the right to vote. An active member is defined as a person who has participated in other threads at the forum and has not joined for the purpose of trolling."

Eighteen posts allows a member of the forum to register as a voter in the Fantasy Elections board.  However, a registered member is also required to maintain a certain level of activity (though that level is undefined in the constitution) and refrain from trolling (also undefined in the constitution) in order for he or she to be considered valid voters.

Therefore, effective immediately, the Office of the Secretary of Forum Affairs will only recognize the votes of those who have posted a minimum of 25 posts in any board on the Atlas Forum in the period between elections.  This will not affect first-time voters.

The amount of activity needed is defined clearly in the constitution on my reading. "He has participated on other threads at the forum". So, one post outside the Fantasy Elections section would appear to be sufficient, whether you like that or not.

[StevenNick]

NEWS UPDATES 1/4/05

1.  Updated Registration Lists!!  These include the few new members who have joined, a couple of party changes, and the newly created John Engle Party.

You will also notice that I have deleted the tallies of party registration data in the Regions and Districts registration data posts.  These were simply too much of a hassle to maintain, particularly when anyone can take a few minutes and count that information up themselves.  The registration by party thread will continue to have an updated breakdown by party.

2.  The constitution states that, "No one who has attained eighteen posts, is an active member of the forum, and has established an avatar from the United States for at least the time span of the election shall be denied the right to vote. An active member is defined as a person who has participated in other threads at the forum and has not joined for the purpose of trolling."

I have come to the conclusion that NixonNow has indeed joined for the purpose of trolling.  This is evident in his impersonation and harassment of Htmldon, his multiple registrations under various names, and his generally lewd and mischievious conduct on the forum.  I have therefore deleted NixonNow's registration and hereby declare his registrations under all of his various screennames invalid.

If he wishes to appeal this decision, he may sue me and let the Supreme Court decide the issue.

[ilikeverin]

Wow StevenNick, excellent work!

It would be cool if you marked who are new (since the last federal election... or new in the last month... or in the last week...) registrations... somehow...

Just a pipe dream

[Colin]

Thank you Steven. We are finally free of NixonNow.

[minionofmidas]

Yeah, I think that decision is warranted by the Constitution.
Although it might be said that not all his posts are trollish (look at his NJ Election Atlas for example), he seems to have indeed rejoined the Elections Forum for the purpose of trolling.

[StevenNick]

Bump.

Just a reminder to everyone that this thread is the actual office of the secretary of forum affairs.  The other thread that Fritz started is the old one.

[StevenNick]

Hola from Morelia, everybody.  Just thought I would post so you guys all know that I´m still alive.  I can see that there´s still the usual amount of activity here on the forum.  ¿Naso for senate, eh?  I can´t say I´m entirely surprised.

Well, I guess I don´t really have much to say except that all of you guys who are back in the states going to school or work are chumps.  I´m here chilling and drinking margaritas while you all are going about your normal lives.  ¡Ha!

Tengan un buen día a todos.  Hasta luego.  Quisas, voy a postar aquí mañana.  Voy a regresar en Febrero.  Adios.

[Gabu]

¿Naso for senate, eh?

Hey, you can't use "eh?"; you aren't Canadian.

[ilikeverin]

Are you feeling OK, StevenNick...?

[Colin]

Are you feeling OK, StevenNick...?

No Montezuma's Revenge I hope.

[StevenNick]

Are you feeling OK, StevenNick...?

No Montezuma's Revenge I hope.

Not yet...

[Peter]

Shapeshifter has not voted in two consecutive federal elections.

KatieG has less than 18 posts, though she did have some posts that were deleted apparently.

I ask for the SoFA to comment on these two points.

[MAS117]

I do not believe that the SoFA has the power to remove someones registration without a due process and a trial.

[King]

I do not believe that the SoFA has the power to remove someones registration without a due process and a trial.

They are when it's illegal...

[MAS117]

Mike you should file a suit with the Supreme Court. You broke no laws. Trolling is not a crime, its just annoying. The SoFA had no legal right to delete your registration.

[Gabu]

Trolling is not a crime, its just annoying.

Actually, it currently is.  The following is an excerpt from Article V, Clause 5 of the Constitution:

No one who has attained eighteen posts, is an active member of the forum, and has established an avatar from the United States for at least the time span of the election shall be denied the right to vote. An active member is defined as a person who has participated in other threads at the forum and has not joined for the purpose of trolling.

[Peter]

I'll post what I posted in the Constitutional Convention given that this matter came up:

 The SoFA has actually broken the law as a matter of course.

The Constitution both in the present version and our proposed version contains the following language:

"No agency of government shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law"

Clearly the right to vote is a liberty in the sense meant under this clause. Given that an accusation of trolling has been made there still needs to "due process" because there is no quantifiable way for one to determine whether he is a troll in the same sense that it can be quantifiably determined if somebody has voted in the last two elections. Due process in this case, I believe, would be by a jury trial.

If an Executive agent can determine one person is a troll without a check or balance on him, then he could determine any of us to be trolls, and that is the first step to tyranny.

If Mr. NixonNow wants to sue the pants off Steven, he will probably win, whats more, I'd represent him if he were willing. Undoubtedly, NixonNow's behaviour is trollish, that doesn't mean the executive gets to act as judge, jury and executioner, especially given that trolling can never be strictly quantified.

[Platypus]

Trolling is not a crime, its just annoying.

Actually, it currently is. The following is an excerpt from Article V, Clause 5 of the Constitution:

No one who has attained eighteen posts, is an active member of the forum, and has established an avatar from the United States for at least the time span of the election shall be denied the right to vote. An active member is defined as a person who has participated in other threads at the forum and has not joined for the purpose of trolling.

Anyone else think this would have to be just about the first constitution in the world with the word "trolling" in it?

[MAS117]

The fact is trolling is a broad term and is not defined. To me, trolling is not against the law, and Mike should sue and have Peter Bell as his council. If Mike decides to sue, I would like to second chair along side Peter.

[King]

StevenNick's registration list hasn't been updated since January 4th, anybody got an updated one?

[Peter]

I have it for the Mideast because I tracked it myself whilst I was running for the Governorship

[Jake]

Registration by District

District 1
AndrewBerger            UP  NY
Flyers2005            D   PA
Bergie72*            O   PA
Boss Tweed            O   NY
Bullmoose88            UP  PA
Chiahead            R   PA
ColinW            R   PA
Danwxman            D   PA
Defarge            D   NY
EarlAW            D   NY
Erc               R   NY
Huckleberry Finn         AF  NY
J.J.               R   PA
Julien               D   PA
Kemperor            I   NY
Keystone Phil            R   PA
Lawrence Watson*         D   PA
Josh                   D   PA
Nation            UP  NY
nini2287            D   PA
NYGOP*            O   NY
Patrick1            R   NY
Red Button            D   NY
Romeomustdie         D   NY
Silent Hunter*            D   NY
Supersoulty            AF  PA
ShapeShifter*                O   NY
Smash255            D   NY
TheBulldog            FL  NY
True Democrat         D   PA
Volrath50*            I   NY
Wakie                         D   PA


District 2
Akno21            D   MD
Alcaeus*            D   DE
badnarikin04            L   NH
Beet                          UP  MD
Blerpiez            FL  MA
Bono               R   NH
Cashcow            D   NJ
Dazzleman*            R   CT
Ethelberth            D   ME
I-Spy               I   MD
Jens               UL  RI
Kevinstat            D   ME
MAS117            UP  NJ
NixonNow                               R    NJ
Michael Z            UL  DC
NHPolitico*            R   NH
nickshepDEM                   D   MD
NickG            UL  MD
Old Europe            I   MA
RedefeatBush04         U   NJ
Republicanjew18*         R   NJ
Siege40            UL  ME
Sulfur*            R   NH
TN2024                        R   CT
Umengus*            D   VT
Zachman            UL  NH


District 3
9iron*            R   MI
Acsenray         D   OH
Al            FL  WV
Ben            UP  VA
BobOMac2K2      D   IL
BRTD            UL  MN
Dabeav         L   MN
DemRepDan         O   IL
elcorazon                  D   IL
English*         D   MN
European                   D   MN
Fritz            D   MN
Gustaf         AF  MN
ILikeVerin         FL  MN
JoeRepublic                I   OH
Kodratos         FL  IL
KucinichForPrez      O   MI
Liberty         I   VA
MasterJedi         R   WI
MHS2002         UP  VA
Nym90         D   MI
Owl            I   ND
Peter Bell         I   IN
Polkergeist         UP  ND
Rococo4*         R   OH
Chief of Staff Mike Naso      R   OH
sanstrom54014      D   WI
skybridge                  D   MI
went that way         FL  IL


District 4
Democratic 'Hawk'    D   GA
Jake                    R   GA
CheeseWhiz           R   FL
Ernest                  UP  SC
Franklin D. Roosevelt      I   FL
George W Bush        R   TX
Harry                   D   MS
Htmldon               UP  TN
John Dibble           L   GA
Josh22                          AF  NC
ian                            D   AR
KatieG               SR  MS
LesterMaddox         R   GA
Matt                   R   MS
AuH20*         SR  SC
ncjake*                 R   FL
Nclib                   D   NC
Niles Caulder*         I   TX
Q                                O   GA
Cosmo Kramer        AF  AR
SamSpade             UP  LA
StatesRights         SR  FL
Storebought          O   LA
Swarch*      L   TX
Texasgurl      D   OK
ThePrezMex               UP  TX
WiseGuy                 R   FL
WMS               AF  NM


District 5
Aflietch*                 AF  CO
Alcon                     D   SD
Blue Rectangle       R   CO
Blunderstorm          FL  MT
Bob                       I   OR
Clay                       I   IA
DanielX                  R   WY
Doug D Wise*        D   MT
Freedomburns*       UL  CA
Gabu                     D   WA
Hughento               I   OR
Immy                    D   ID
Jas                       FL  IA
Jesus                   O   WA
John                     O   IA
John F Kennedy     I   CA
John Ford              AF  CA
J-Mann                 AF  KS
Karl                      R   IA
khirkhib*               UL  OR
King                     UP  NV
Lewis Trondheim   UL  HI
NewFoundPolitics UP  ID
Mr Fresh              R   ID
Mr. Hobbes          UP  CA
opebo                  D   MO
PBrunsel             R   IA
phknrocket1k       D   CA
Reignman*          D   WA
Rutzay                D   IA
StevenNick          R   WA
tkwrinklefiber*      D   CA
Vincent              D   AZ
Vorlon                 L   CA
WildCard            AF  CA

[KEmperor]

Where is Mike Naso on that list?

[King]

Chief of Staff Mike Naso      R   OH