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Marokai Backbeat
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« on: November 10, 2011, 01:23:53 AM »

I feel like a recall should only be used in extreme situations, and 30% is an incredibly low bar to initiating a recall.

In most regions we're talking about a handful of people, really. I don't really love the idea of a handful of stubborn and highly motivated citizens basically initiating recall after recall. If a Senator needs to be recalled, it should be for good reason and only done if absolutely necessary. A much higher bar, in that case, should be used. 60% or so, let's say.

Then again, I'm not really sure we need recall mechanisms in place to begin with, though I admire the brainstorming.
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2011, 01:36:57 AM »

I propose an amendment (changes in bold):

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2011, 07:05:38 PM »

Aye.

Not sure I can really vote for a final version that's lower than that. As Bgwah and Kalwejt said, there's an STV/small parties problem with allowing recalls. I can't think of any other way to protect against that than this, especially since recalling a Senator should only be done in extraordinarily circumstances.
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 07:14:55 PM »

Nay. I'm just not comfortable allowing something like this with just half the population signing onto it. With small parties or close elections, we could be potentially allowing instant recalls at no fault of the Senator himself. Byway said in the initiative debate "signatures are easier to get in Atlasia." He's right. Sorry guys.
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2011, 07:07:10 AM »

Nay.
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