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« Reply #150 on: July 19, 2012, 02:55:31 AM »

One of the rumors is that the defense minister and deputy were killed by someone on the inside (possibly one of their own security guards), because the thinking is that it would have taken someone on the inside to get that close to them.


I don't see how it could be otherwise.  It has inside job written all over it.

Question of the day: does Assad A. take his chances in Damascus, B. retreat to Lattakia and prepare to continue the fight on friendly ground, or C. take the next flight to Moscow and call it quits?
There is rumor that Assad has in fact fled to Lattakia and that the Army is redistributing their Scuds and topping them with mustard gas.  In slightly more concrete news, Jordan is deploying German owned (but US built and with our approval) Patriot missile defense systems to protect themselves....and (wait for it).....Israel from possible Syrian missile attacks.

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« Reply #151 on: July 19, 2012, 05:28:14 AM »

Seems like Assad could follow the Gaddafi route pretty quickly now.

"Bashar al-Assad to no longer be President of Syria before midnight ET 31 Dec 2012" is traded at only 63.0% on Intrade. Buy... buy now.
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« Reply #152 on: July 19, 2012, 09:39:12 AM »

One of the rumors is that the defense minister and deputy were killed by someone on the inside (possibly one of their own security guards), because the thinking is that it would have taken someone on the inside to get that close to them.


I don't see how it could be otherwise.  It has inside job written all over it.

Question of the day: does Assad A. take his chances in Damascus, B. retreat to Lattakia and prepare to continue the fight on friendly ground, or C. take the next flight to Moscow and call it quits?

I doubt he leaves Damascus. Any authority he still has rests on his government being the legitimate government of Syria. The moment he leaves the capital the stream of defections becomes a flood. I doubt he changes policy now, all he has to do is soldier on, slowly culling the opposition with aid from the Russians. The status quo isn't a killer for him yet.

Well, less then one day later it turns out I'm completely wrong. NPR is now reporting that he's fled Damascus. I had no idea the rebels were doing this well. I kinda thought it was a fluke.
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« Reply #153 on: July 19, 2012, 09:46:28 AM »

Yeah, it seems that Syria as we knew it is done.  Good riddance.
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« Reply #154 on: July 19, 2012, 01:03:53 PM »

FSA controls all the border checkpoints on the Syrian-Iraqi border, according to the Iraqi government.

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« Reply #155 on: July 20, 2012, 03:14:24 AM »

And even more good news, Iran Quds Force Commander Killed in Damascus blast link
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« Reply #156 on: July 21, 2012, 12:08:39 AM »

yes people dying is always good news.  if more people died everything would be solved.  "no man, no problem"  - Stalin
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« Reply #157 on: July 21, 2012, 12:08:53 AM »

The case for pessimism!: The violence in Syria may be a long way from being over:

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« Reply #158 on: July 21, 2012, 12:34:11 AM »

yes people dying is always good news.  if more people died everything would be solved.
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Roll Eyes  Your idiocy is extra high tonight, there a reason?
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« Reply #159 on: July 21, 2012, 12:39:05 AM »

Israel may seize advanced weapons in Syria
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« Reply #160 on: July 21, 2012, 09:57:26 AM »

20-30k people from Damascus flee to Lebanon.

Between that and Damascus' Alawites fleeing for the coast, the old city must be feeling a bit empty (in addition to being an all-out warzone).
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« Reply #161 on: July 21, 2012, 11:59:16 AM »

Kurdish nationalists in Syria make their play, seizing two towns in Syria's remote northeast and attempting to take a third.  Syria has a relatively small Kurdish population, but Syrian Kurdistan is removed pretty far from where most of Syria's population is concentrated.

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« Reply #162 on: July 21, 2012, 03:57:07 PM »

yes people dying is always good news.  if more people died everything would be solved.
Yes, that's exactly what I said. Roll Eyes  Your idiocy is extra high tonight, there a reason?

you cheered a death, and I extrapolated.
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« Reply #163 on: July 21, 2012, 10:38:06 PM »

It's official -the Obama administration is now focused on overthrowing Bashar al-Assad's regime

It's about time. 
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« Reply #164 on: July 21, 2012, 11:00:53 PM »


The Obama administration should be focused on thee economy.
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« Reply #165 on: July 21, 2012, 11:12:12 PM »


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« Reply #166 on: July 22, 2012, 03:03:27 PM »


Let's not overestimate these politicians.
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« Reply #167 on: July 23, 2012, 11:01:05 PM »

The regime is getting desperate -they are threatening to unleash the hounds of hell from their stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons if any foreign power intervenes on behalf of the rebels.
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« Reply #168 on: July 24, 2012, 12:56:09 AM »

Which is funny, because they've always claimed they didn't have them.  link
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« Reply #169 on: July 24, 2012, 01:29:23 AM »

Which is funny, because they've always claimed they didn't have them.  link
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Is it possible that Syria is making a desperate bluff in order to prevent NATO from getting involved?
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« Reply #170 on: July 24, 2012, 01:35:05 AM »

What do you mean?  That they don't have Chem and Bio weapons? (they certainly do) or that they wouldn't use them in this situation?...but then why have them?
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« Reply #171 on: July 24, 2012, 01:46:51 AM »

What do you mean?  That they don't have Chem and Bio weapons? (they certainly do) or that they wouldn't use them in this situation?...but then why have them?

Has this been confirmed by international inspectors, or do they have them in the same sense that Saddam Hussein "had" them? (in a desperate bluff to thwart another Iranian invasion)
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« Reply #172 on: July 24, 2012, 01:54:14 AM »

I'm reminded of this epic quote from Baghdad Bob:

"It has been rumored that we have fired scud missiles into Kuwait. I am here now to tell you, we do not have any scud missiles and I don't know why they were fired into Kuwait."
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« Reply #173 on: July 24, 2012, 02:02:27 AM »

I'm reminded of this epic quote from Baghdad Bob:

"It has been rumored that we have fired scud missiles into Kuwait. I am here now to tell you, we do not have any scud missiles and I don't know why they were fired into Kuwait."


Is this in reaction to my skepticism? I was asking an honest question, as game theory would dictate that Syria is better off claiming to have weapons regardless of if they are actually there.
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« Reply #174 on: July 24, 2012, 02:04:40 AM »

What do you mean?  That they don't have Chem and Bio weapons? (they certainly do) or that they wouldn't use them in this situation?...but then why have them?

Has this been confirmed by international inspectors, or do they have them in the same sense that Saddam Hussein "had" them? (in a desperate bluff to thwart another Iranian invasion)
I suppose it's possible, I seriously doubt it though.  Of course neither of us have any skin in the game.  Those that do should take the threat seriously though....no?  I'm guessing you wouldn't care if some of it fell into the hands of the Hezzys, but I'm sure those living in Tel Aviv and Beirut do though.
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