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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: December 06, 2011, 06:49:33 AM »
After the passage of the Caucus Act, this is the occasion to revive a strong left-wing force in Atlasia. Let's organize ourselves in order to have as much influence as possible during elections.

Here is the idea for a basic platform :
- We support an active involvement of the State in the economy, in order to establish a fair repartition of wealth, to protect the neediest citizens against destitution and to guarantee everybody a universal access to basic services like health and school.
- We support tough regulations on businesses, in order to avoid corporate abuses of power and behaviours detrimental to workers or consumers.
- We support strict gender, racial, religious equality, to be enforced through means that keep the society united. We refuse to split the national community into sub-communities and commit to treat equally every citizen.
- We support a person's freedom to do everything that doesn't harm himself or another person. We believe that the government's job isn't to impose a moral code, even if such moral code is supported by a majority. We commit to protect religious freedom, and also the freedom not to believe.
- We support environmental legislation that will help Atlasia contributing to the reduction of global warming and ensure for every citizen a better quality of life.
- We support a Human Rights diplomacy, based on the idea that every world citizen yearns to live free. We refuse developing friendships with dictators in the name of selfish national interests. We also refuse neoconservative theories, and believe that Atlasia's job is not to uniterally implement regime changes.

This is just a stub, we will of course work to improve it.

Just FYI, I won't preside over this caucus or take any other responsibility. I'll be a loyal member, but I'll let more enthusiastic people spearhead the movement.
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 07:43:02 AM »
Nobody ?
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 07:53:51 AM »
Bastard. I wanted to do this.

Eh... count me in.
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 08:20:05 AM »
I want in.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2011, 08:45:28 AM »

I support Kalwejt for chairman. Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2011, 09:37:10 AM »

Unfortunately (I was relucants to this idea), caucuses under this bill are inter-party. You're not JCP member anymore, right? Sad
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2011, 11:27:32 AM »
Sign me up!
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2011, 12:09:10 PM »
I've always been a social democrat. Count me in.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2011, 12:21:04 PM »
Quote from: Bretwalda Egbert on December 06, 2011, 12:09:10 PM
I've always been a social democrat. Count me in.

You're not a member of the JCP.  See bgwah's caucus thread.
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2011, 12:26:04 PM »
FTR, I really didn't want "only inter-party" rule.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2011, 12:30:39 PM »
Quote from: Bluto on December 06, 2011, 12:26:04 PM
FTR, I really didn't want "only inter-party" rule.

I know you didn't, it's just an unfortunate compromise.
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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2011, 12:35:17 PM »
How much overlap would there be with a Labor caucus?
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 12:40:31 PM »
I'm in.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2011, 01:00:15 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on December 06, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
How much overlap would there be with a Labor caucus?

Depends what you'd put in a "labor" platform. Wink Personally, I just prefer the phrase "social-democrat", but since I don't want to lead the caucus or anything you can name it however you want.

It's a shame that caucus have to be inside a party... Still, it could be a nice occasion to join the JCP (which could disband soon anyways).
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2011, 04:02:22 PM »
Quote from: Meno male che Silvio non c'č pių ! on December 06, 2011, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: bgwah on December 06, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
How much overlap would there be with a Labor caucus?

Depends what you'd put in a "labor" platform. Wink Personally, I just prefer the phrase "social-democrat", but since I don't want to lead the caucus or anything you can name it however you want.

It's a shame that caucus have to be inside a party... Still, it could be a nice occasion to join the JCP (which could disband soon anyways).

I just like names that haven't been used in Atlasia before. We've had like three SDPs, but 0 Labor Parties! Wink
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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2011, 07:07:26 PM »
OK. I'll be a honorary member.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2011, 07:08:32 PM »

What about joining the JCP ?
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2011, 07:27:02 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on December 06, 2011, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Meno male che Silvio non c'č pių ! on December 06, 2011, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: bgwah on December 06, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
How much overlap would there be with a Labor caucus?

Depends what you'd put in a "labor" platform. Wink Personally, I just prefer the phrase "social-democrat", but since I don't want to lead the caucus or anything you can name it however you want.

It's a shame that caucus have to be inside a party... Still, it could be a nice occasion to join the JCP (which could disband soon anyways).

I just like names that haven't been used in Atlasia before. We've had like three SDPs, but 0 Labor Parties! Wink

We did have a Farmer-Labor Party, however!
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2011, 07:30:23 PM »
Quote from: Meno male che Silvio non c'č pių ! on December 06, 2011, 06:49:33 AM
- We support strict gender, racial, religious equality, to be enforced through means that keep the society united. We refuse to split the national community into sub-communities and commit to treat equally every citizen.

I support almost everything, though it would help if you can elaborate on this one point.  I hope you are not referring to quotas. 
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2011, 08:58:44 PM »
Quote from: bgwah on December 06, 2011, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Meno male che Silvio non c'č pių ! on December 06, 2011, 01:00:15 PM
Quote from: bgwah on December 06, 2011, 12:35:17 PM
How much overlap would there be with a Labor caucus?

Depends what you'd put in a "labor" platform. Wink Personally, I just prefer the phrase "social-democrat", but since I don't want to lead the caucus or anything you can name it however you want.

It's a shame that caucus have to be inside a party... Still, it could be a nice occasion to join the JCP (which could disband soon anyways).

I just like names that haven't been used in Atlasia before. We've had like three SDPs, but 0 Labor Parties! Wink

That's why I proposed a Labor Party.
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2011, 10:11:05 PM »
I'm curious, what will the platform of this caucus consist of, exactly?
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2011, 09:33:29 AM »
Quote from: Frodo on December 06, 2011, 07:30:23 PM
Quote from: Meno male che Silvio non c'è più ! on December 06, 2011, 06:49:33 AM
- We support strict gender, racial, religious equality, to be enforced through means that keep the society united. We refuse to split the national community into sub-communities and commit to treat equally every citizen.

I support almost everything, though it would help if you can elaborate on this one point.  I hope you are not referring to quotas. 

As I wrote this point, it implied for me opposition to racial quotas. I personally oppose them, but this is only a rough draft, and the actual platform will be the result of a collective work. Since we probably don't share all the same opinion on this topic, maybe we should just not mention this point.
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2011, 10:40:22 AM »
Yow, count me in.
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« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2011, 12:16:51 PM »
At this point, this is how I count our membership:

Officially Registered Members
Jackson
Fritz

Not Officially Registered Members (comon guys, register already!)
Antonio V
Kalwejt

Non-JCP, possible Honorary Members
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« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2011, 12:41:38 PM »
Quote from: Fritz on December 07, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
Not Officially Registered Members (comon guys, register already!)
Antonio V
Kalwejt

Done.
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