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« on: December 09, 2011, 09:34:49 PM »

Maybe the GOP war on labor has finally woken up the WWC. Obama can stand to make massive gains in SW PA.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 01:04:55 AM »

If Obama is winning PA by that much, I assume he's doing at least as well as Gore did in SW PA. Even in a close race, he can at least pick up Fayette; based on historical precedent, he'll improve in at least one state (doesn't mean he'll win it) and will certainly pick up some counties he failed to win in 2008.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 12:13:29 PM »

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Its a joke college poll with a horrible track record, but the lefties here want to pretend that it has some validity.

Fayette voted for Toomey over Sestak. The GOP trend that started in Westmoreland has spread to the entire SW. It's not just an anti-obama like the mental midgets out on DA INTERWEBZ! want to pretend. Its actually an anti-democrat thing that has been growing in the SW.

Obama isn't going to win Fayette. The GOP nominee will improve on McCain's numbers there.

I love it how "trends" only work one way on this board, and they are ALWAYS INEVITABLEZ!!! if they favor Democrats. They never work the other way.

I have news for you, SW Pennsylvania is a place where the trend is in favor of the GOP and has been for some time.


Oh, not all trends favor Democrats. Missouri is no longer a pure tossup, and I'm skeptical of those who claim Texas is becoming competitive. The Dakotas, in addition, have always been Republican but are becoming more consistently partisan at a congressional level. Southwestern Pennsylvania has certainly trended against us--no way Obama will win Westmoreland except against Bachmann.

In addition, Democrats still do well in the region at a local level--look at the statehouse. Two of the three non-Pittsburgh districts still send Democrats to Congress, and Sestak, despite losing Fayette and Greene (along with the state), did better than Obama (who won by 11 points), and in a uniform swing to a Sestak win he would have won both.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 01:48:16 PM »

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Its a joke college poll with a horrible track record, but the lefties here want to pretend that it has some validity.

Fayette voted for Toomey over Sestak. The GOP trend that started in Westmoreland has spread to the entire SW. It's not just an anti-obama like the mental midgets out on DA INTERWEBZ! want to pretend. Its actually an anti-democrat thing that has been growing in the SW.

Obama isn't going to win Fayette. The GOP nominee will improve on McCain's numbers there.

I love it how "trends" only work one way on this board, and they are ALWAYS INEVITABLEZ!!! if they favor Democrats. They never work the other way.

I have news for you, SW Pennsylvania is a place where the trend is in favor of the GOP and has been for some time.


Oh, not all trends favor Democrats. Missouri is no longer a pure tossup, and I'm skeptical of those who claim Texas is becoming competitive. The Dakotas, in addition, have always been Republican but are becoming more consistently partisan at a congressional level. Southwestern Pennsylvania has certainly trended against us--no way Obama will win Westmoreland except against Bachmann.

In addition, Democrats still do well in the region at a local level--look at the statehouse. Two of the three non-Pittsburgh districts still send Democrats to Congress, and Sestak, despite losing Fayette and Greene (along with the state), did better than Obama (who won by 11 points), and in a uniform swing to a Sestak win he would have won both.
The places that are trending Dem are doing so because they are becoming less white. This is not the case in SW PA.

Ah, forgot about the massive Hispanic influx in northern New England.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 10:00:41 PM »

Let's see... 2000 was a freak year, 2002 was a freak year, 2004 was a freak year. 2006 was normal, 2008 was normal. 2010 was a freak year. 2011 was a freak year.

See a pattern there?

U mad bro?

Oh, btw: Obama LOST SW Pennsylvania in the "normal year". So how does your rambling nonsense address that point?

And Kerry won it. Though the area has been trending Republican since the 80's, it swung hard to McCain as a kneejerk reaction to...I won't go there.
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