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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
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« on: December 11, 2011, 12:36:43 PM »

Wildrose (no longer having Alliance in it's name) uses Green; and, the Green Party is illegal in Alberta.

Also, Redford, PC leader, would be a Liberal in places like BC, Ontario, or Quebec.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2011, 01:12:28 PM »

Klien was an Alberta Liberal back when he was Mayor of Calgary. Calgary, in fact, is much more moderate than people think. It's been tainted by the MP's it elects - and even then, half of them were born in Toronto.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 03:01:17 PM »

Thats why I like phrasing it like that Cheesy
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2011, 10:59:29 PM »

Aye

The Green Party of Ontario and the Green Party of Canada had their own "war" back in the 90's that started very slowly. The GPC was more left wing and the GPO very slowly started to move to the right.

Over the next decade, those who agreed with the GPO took over really. GPC is now in line with the GPO (which itself has not moved) and GPBC has perhaps outdone GPO in right-wingidness. The only truly left-wing Greens left are the GPSK.

The long-story-short of the Alberta story was an attempt by the Eco Capitalists to take the party over from the Socialists, but the gulf between them was much larger than in other Green Parties in Canada. IIRC the party would have went from the most left-wing to the most right-wing Green Party in all of Canada. One half walked out of the convention, taking the chair of said meeting with them, and the other half continued with someone as chair who'd not renewed their membership, and this caused chaos. Eventually the party lost it's status. The leftos are creating their own "movement" which may or may not run candidates, while the righties are running for parties like Wildrose.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2011, 02:32:46 PM »

What's up with the polling for the "others"? are these Green votes? Why so many? Who else do they want to vote for? Did they mid up the name on the newly named Wildrose party with their former name as the Alliance? This is confusing for me.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 06:48:44 PM »

Peter Lougheed was sworn in, Sep 10th 1971

George A. Drew, from the Ontario PC Party, was sworn in August 17th 1943, and his party held power until the resignation (after losing an election) of Premier Miller on June 26th 1985. Some of these were minority governments.

Quebec Liberal Premier Marchand was sworn in on the 24th of May, 1897, and Liberal Godbout resigned after losing an election on August 28th 1936.

These are some of the longest lasting political dynasties in Canada. Even Alberta's Social Credit government did not last this long.

The Ontario PC dynasty lasted for 41 years, 10 months, 9 days, or, 15,289 days.

The Quebec Liberal dynasty, lasted 39 years, 3 months, 4 days, or, 14,340 days.

The current Alberta dynasty is 40 years, 3 months, 16 days old, or, 14,717 days.

Nova Scotia, however, puts all of this to shame. On August 3rd 1883, William T Pipes became Premier, and this dynasty did not end until the election loss of Premier Armstrong, following which he resigned on July 16th, 1925. This is 41 years, 11 months, and 13 days, or, 15,322 days. Not that much you say?

Let me do a quick *reverse* calculation, from pre-Stanfield Nova Scotia. Starting with Stanfield became Premier, and ending (or reverse) at the first post-confederation election, a period passed of 89 years, 1 months, 13 days. A total of 32,551 days. Now we add two period. October 22 1878 to July 18 1882, as well as July 16 1925 to September 5 1933. This is 2973 days plus 1365 days, or, a total of 4338, which leaves a remainder of 28,213. Why is this important?
For 28,213 days, out of 32,551 days, the Nova Scotia Liberals held a majority government. 86.6% of a full 89 years, spent with one party holding a Majority. Now that's a dynasty that won't be easy to beat.

Regardless.
If the PC Party retains a majority on Thursday, August 22, 2013, they will beat the record for the longest lasting unbroken government in Canada.
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Teddy (IDS Legislator)
nickjbor
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,200
Canada


Political Matrix
E: -1.42, S: -1.91

WWW
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 10:19:15 PM »

some news about social credit party?
No? Should there be? They are useless.
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