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Tender Branson
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« Reply #950 on: June 17, 2012, 11:51:01 AM »

Looks like my prediction was almost correct, based on the exit polls.

Don't think that there will be enough seats for a ND-PASOK government though.
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« Reply #951 on: June 17, 2012, 11:54:40 AM »

Looks like my prediction was almost correct, based on the exit polls.

Don't think that there will be enough seats for a ND-PASOK government though.

ND-PASOK-DL could swing it, but only if ND win.
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« Reply #952 on: June 17, 2012, 11:56:41 AM »

insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.   thats what we may have going on here.  in 2 ways really:  people wanting a ND-PASOK govt and just have an election even.  how many elections can greece have even?   if it remains stalemate i would imagine thats when the military steps in..
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« Reply #953 on: June 17, 2012, 11:57:15 AM »

If you press on the map, there are already some results shown - but nothing on the national table. Why is it? Just delay in tabulating?
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« Reply #954 on: June 17, 2012, 11:57:39 AM »

Maria Kagkelidou tweets: New Democracy supporters outside electoral kiosk look uncomfortable. Not many politicians wishing to comment, many cancelling on media
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« Reply #955 on: June 17, 2012, 11:59:11 AM »

If you press on the map, there are already some results shown - but nothing on the national table. Why is it? Just delay in tabulating?
Perhaps they're considering a national tally from a handful of precincts too misleading or something. I do recall they didn't add an official seats projections until some time later last time.
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« Reply #956 on: June 17, 2012, 11:59:59 AM »

Maybe I should start reading the Weimar Republic history.
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« Reply #957 on: June 17, 2012, 12:00:34 PM »

Vote breakdown by age:

18-34 SYRIZA 33%, ND 20%
35-54 SYRIZA 34%, ND 24%
55+ ND 39%, SYRIZA 20%
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« Reply #958 on: June 17, 2012, 12:01:38 PM »

insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.   thats what we may have going on here.  in 2 ways really:  people wanting a ND-PASOK govt and just have an election even.  how many elections can greece have even?   if it remains stalemate i would imagine thats when the military steps in..

If I was buying into this whole "Merkel running the show" rhetoric, i'd just say that she wouldn't let it happen so as to avoid poor stereotypes.
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« Reply #959 on: June 17, 2012, 12:02:13 PM »

Wow.  I was right.  This will be a tense afternoon.
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« Reply #960 on: June 17, 2012, 12:03:27 PM »

From the scattered precincts it looks that, aside from those anyway below the threshold, the big looser will be KKE.
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« Reply #961 on: June 17, 2012, 12:03:54 PM »

Numbers seem to come in and with about 15% in in a few districts, it seems ND is gaining the most.
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« Reply #962 on: June 17, 2012, 12:04:19 PM »

Click on election districts on the Greek election site and you can see who is currently leading in each one.
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« Reply #963 on: June 17, 2012, 12:05:19 PM »

Numbers seem to come in and with about 15% in in a few districts, it seems ND is gaining the most.

Seem to be leading in most election districts, but there's nowhere more than 50%.
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« Reply #964 on: June 17, 2012, 12:07:33 PM »

Whats the reporting pattern like in Greece? Do the left wing areas come in later than the right wing ones?
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« Reply #965 on: June 17, 2012, 12:08:50 PM »

Go away, Stark. We don't want your drooling over Nazis.
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« Reply #966 on: June 17, 2012, 12:09:08 PM »

Well, yeah, SYRYZA is doing better - as does ND. And most of the improved performance is the consolidation of the previously splintered vote: the KKE fall is definitely part of the same story.
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« Reply #967 on: June 17, 2012, 12:09:34 PM »

Whats the reporting pattern like in Greece? Do the left wing areas come in later than the right wing ones?

Last time I think the rural areas came in for the most part before the cities and Athens came in last, but I could be misremembering.
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« Reply #968 on: June 17, 2012, 12:11:13 PM »

Whats the reporting pattern like in Greece? Do the left wing areas come in later than the right wing ones?

Last time I think the rural areas came in for the most part before the cities and Athens came in last, but I could be misremembering.
No, that is quite right.

And actually I have no problem whatsoever with Stark discussing the election performance of nazis. This is an elections board.
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« Reply #969 on: June 17, 2012, 12:13:40 PM »

In many areas so far, the ND is doubling its share from May.

Could be offset by a strong SYRIZA showing in the Athens area though (which currently is the case).
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« Reply #970 on: June 17, 2012, 12:13:53 PM »

Whats the reporting pattern like in Greece? Do the left wing areas come in later than the right wing ones?

Last time I think the rural areas came in for the most part before the cities and Athens came in last, but I could be misremembering.

Thanks Smiley
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« Reply #971 on: June 17, 2012, 12:16:56 PM »

What has ANEL said about coalitions? I'm trying to work out what SYRIZA's options will be if it wins.
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« Reply #972 on: June 17, 2012, 12:18:33 PM »

I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
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« Reply #973 on: June 17, 2012, 12:20:05 PM »

Stark can post bland factual statements about the election, but does not get to drool. Attempts will be made to get him thrown off the forum again.
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« Reply #974 on: June 17, 2012, 12:21:44 PM »

from athens news
29%  ND
28.5%  Syriza
11%  PASOK
6.75%  XE
6.75%  IG
6%   DL
5.5%   KKE

Projected allocation of seats
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