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« on: June 17, 2012, 11:10:55 AM »

That's not going to produce a pro-bailout majority, is it?
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2012, 11:13:32 AM »

That's not going to produce a pro-bailout majority, is it?

It might if ND gets the 1st place bonus.

Operative word at the moment being "if".
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« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2012, 11:20:10 AM »


Unless you're a trader tomorrow morning.
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« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2012, 11:27:35 AM »

Quick calculation that may be wildly wrong, using midpoints of the exit polls:

ND c.122 (with 50 seat bonus)
Syriza c.71
PASOK c.28
Ind Greeks c. 19
Golden Dawn c.19

122+28=150, so an ND+PASOK coalition would scrape an overall majority with the 50 extra seats, but they'd need Democratic Left to make it work.

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« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2012, 11:34:19 AM »

Folks might want the English language version - no offence intended, Lewis
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2012, 11:54:40 AM »

Looks like my prediction was almost correct, based on the exit polls.

Don't think that there will be enough seats for a ND-PASOK government though.

ND-PASOK-DL could swing it, but only if ND win.
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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2012, 12:04:19 PM »

Click on election districts on the Greek election site and you can see who is currently leading in each one.
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« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2012, 12:05:19 PM »

Numbers seem to come in and with about 15% in in a few districts, it seems ND is gaining the most.

Seem to be leading in most election districts, but there's nowhere more than 50%.
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2012, 12:18:33 PM »

I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2012, 12:27:34 PM »

I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
Athinon A is the city of Athens proper. Athinon B is most of her inner and middle suburbs. That's by far the largest constituency in Greece, and is further left on balance than the city proper. Piraeus A is that suburban city plus the lesser Saronic islands and Kythera and the bit of the Peloponnese that are included in Attica for reasons unknown. Piraeus B are the very working class, very lefty portside suburbs west of Piraeus, including Salamis (the most populated of the Saronic islands). Attica are the outer suburban and quasi-rural parts of Attica.

B being V on the site, correct?
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« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2012, 12:32:17 PM »

Why is this site showing the district results but not the national results ?

District results aren't finalised yet, so they're not showing any national ones.
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2012, 12:33:09 PM »

I assume Athinon is Athens - both districts there are well out.
Athinon A is the city of Athens proper. Athinon B is most of her inner and middle suburbs. That's by far the largest constituency in Greece, and is further left on balance than the city proper. Piraeus A is that suburban city plus the lesser Saronic islands and Kythera and the bit of the Peloponnese that are included in Attica for reasons unknown. Piraeus B are the very working class, very lefty portside suburbs west of Piraeus, including Salamis (the most populated of the Saronic islands). Attica are the outer suburban and quasi-rural parts of Attica.

B being V on the site, correct?
Yes, of course. V being the modern (past 1800? years) pronunciation of the second letter of the Greek alphabet.

Thanks for both of those.
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2012, 01:47:32 PM »

Official government projection - 29.6% ND, 27.1% Syriza.
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2012, 02:09:14 PM »
« Edited: June 17, 2012, 02:11:50 PM by London Man »

If this woman is reflecting PASOK's actual views, my guess is that the party is considering that any coalition with ND is going to damage it very badly electorally for a clear decade - and give Syriza a chance at a majority at the 2016 elections - because the bailout if it continues will hurt their working-class voters (of course, so too would a default).
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2012, 02:14:49 PM »

PASOK's leader has said that Syriza should be in any coalition - BBC.
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