SENATE BILL: Increased Mirror Sales Act (On the President's desk, again)
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« on: December 16, 2011, 05:25:39 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 06:07:17 PM »

I'd like to offer the following amendment:

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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 10:53:23 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 05:16:14 PM »

My ah "associates" down in Miami tell me to oppose this on the grounds that it is "bad for business". Grin

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 05:28:03 PM »


I wouldn't be surprised if the price were still significantly lower than if it remained illegal.
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 05:33:15 PM »

My ah "associates" down in Miami tell me to oppose this on the grounds that it is "bad for business". Grin



I'm glad you recognize that prohibition leads to crime and violence. Hopefully for your constituents' sake you support the bill.
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 05:44:22 PM »

The determination of whether or not to pursue a policy of of prohibition of something is not solely based on the amount of violence and crime it causes, but on the relative level of the crime and violence compared with the amount of public good acheived from the prohibition.

It is my opinion that banning cocaine is in the interest of the public and that the level of violence isn't sufficient to outweigh that.
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 05:49:14 PM »


I wouldn't be surprised if the price were still significantly lower than if it remained illegal.

I'll accept 25% even though I hate sin taxes.
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 05:52:04 PM »

Okay, I withdraw my previous amendment in favor of:

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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2011, 11:03:21 PM »

The amendment has passed.
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2011, 03:11:33 AM »

This bill is now at a final vote. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.

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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2011, 04:03:28 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 04:21:59 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 08:57:08 AM »

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I have been quite for a bit as I am waiting to actually serve in the Senate, but I thought I should point something out here.  This bill legalizes the use of cocaine, but does not mention the sale of cocaine.  While it does put a tax on those sales, it appears that selling cocaine would still be illegal.

We have the same issue in Wisconsin with electric weapons.  It used to be a felony to possess.  That was just legalized, as was transporting or carrying one (if one has a concealed carry license) but they never changed the language about selling.  So you can legally buy one, carry it, own it, and transport it, but no one can sell it to you.  Kind of defeats the purpose.

For the record, I have no problem with the bill and would probablly support it.  Just thought I would point out that this bill allows possession and use, but does not change any previous laws that would make transportation or distribution illegal.  Because of that, the 25% tax (which I totally support) would be hard to enforce.
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 12:06:12 PM »

That was my initial intention...
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 05:41:34 PM »


What was? To make possession legal but not selling? Or basically to make cocaine completely legal?
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« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2011, 09:38:56 AM »

Nay. Good lord. I'm glad Napoleon has such high priorities. I'm trying to propose constitutional amendments to make the game more fun and interesting and proposing economic/welfare reforms; he's proposing legalization of cocaine.
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« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2011, 10:57:17 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2011, 12:20:38 PM »

Aye
It's the dealers who are the problem and should be prosecuted, not the junkies.
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2011, 02:03:37 PM »

Nay. Good lord. I'm glad Napoleon has such high priorities. I'm trying to propose constitutional amendments to make the game more fun and interesting and proposing economic/welfare reforms; he's proposing legalization of cocaine.

This game will never be fun if we always have people complaining about game functions instead of playing the game the way it ought to be: policy minded discussions that make elections hold candidates accountable for their stances on the issues and not simply party line votes or popularity contest style elections. I think my path has worked well in my region, where I went from a one vote win to the largest vote total for a general election Senate race in Atlasian history, according to Teddy when he was still SoFE.
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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2011, 05:18:06 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2011, 12:29:29 AM »

aye
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« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2011, 05:39:33 AM »

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« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2011, 09:31:50 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #24 on: December 27, 2011, 04:58:19 PM »

Current tally is 6-3. This has enough votes to pass. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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