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Joe Biden 2020
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« on: December 18, 2011, 09:56:17 AM »


That pic looks like a bunch of Jewish Amish brethren or some cocktail like that...
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 10:12:01 AM »

The ultra-Orthodox have a very strange but consistent look. Go to the right parts of Brooklyn and you'll see them (including some of my relatives) all over, looking just like that. Heck, drive down certain streets in Memphis on Saturday morning and you'll see them walking to synagogue. Don't know how they manage in the black suits in July.

I figured it was an orthodox wardrobe.  Considering I've only been to New York City once in my life to see a Reds/Mets game at the old Shea Stadium, and I've only driven through Memphis on my way to Norfolk, Virginia then I wouldn't know the dress.  There aren't too many orthodox in Oklahoma City.

And, yeah, I can only imagine the warmth they must feel in July. Smiley
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 10:39:15 AM »

The ultra-Orthodox have a very strange but consistent look. Go to the right parts of Brooklyn and you'll see them (including some of my relatives) all over, looking just like that. Heck, drive down certain streets in Memphis on Saturday morning and you'll see them walking to synagogue. Don't know how they manage in the black suits in July.

I figured it was an orthodox wardrobe.  Considering I've only been to New York City once in my life to see a Reds/Mets game at the old Shea Stadium, and I've only driven through Memphis on my way to Norfolk, Virginia then I wouldn't know the dress.  There aren't too many orthodox in Oklahoma City.

And, yeah, I can only imagine the warmth they must feel in July. Smiley
There aren't that many in Memphis. That was kind of my point. Even in my smaller town, they're around. I did a google search and there's an orthodox synagogue in OKC. It's called Ohev Shalom and it's at 3901 N. Portland Ave. Drive by around 9 AM on Saturday morning. I bet you'll see people dressed like in the picture.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one.  It's several miles from where I live, and I don't drive up that way unless I have to.

I wonder what they do with their hats when the Oklahoma wind throws its temper tantrums and gusts over 50 mph.  I would be interested to find out how many hats are lost on those days.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 11:24:35 AM »


It seems kind of odd for one of the least important Jewish holidays to coincide with one of Christianity's most important holidays (second only to Easter).  I guess that's on purpose so as to not overshadow or short-circuit the importance of Christmas.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 12:19:57 PM »

I guess that's on purpose so as to not overshadow or short-circuit the importance of Christmas.

No, it's not.  Don't be stupid.  We couldn't care less about your holiday.

I know, I was just teasing, don't get all worked up. Smiley  Anyway, I do wish all my Jewish friends a Happy Hanukkah.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 09:40:58 PM »

The ultra-Orthodox have a very strange but consistent look. Go to the right parts of Brooklyn and you'll see them (including some of my relatives) all over, looking just like that. Heck, drive down certain streets in Memphis on Saturday morning and you'll see them walking to synagogue. Don't know how they manage in the black suits in July.

Another reason why dressing up for any type of religious service is a terrible thing and a practice that needs to go away entirely. I like the summer services where I go because it has a ton of cute girls and they're often wearing sex sundresses or miniskirts, very nice. Smiley Of course now when it's cold that means a lot are wearing those cute hipster scarves, so it works out too.

Don't Orthodox Jewish services also have segregated genders like mosques? Ugh.
Yes, orthodox synagogues are designed so that men can't see the women during services. The idea is that you shouldn't be distracted by sundresses or whatever while you're praying. Not that an orthodox woman would wear a sundress anyway. They're covered from throat to toe  (minus hands) anytime they're outside anyway. Plus their hair will be obscured under either a wig or headscarf once they're married, which happens at about age 19.

See this is why I'd never visit a mosque or orthodox synagogue. Ever.

Today was kind of weird though, it was our special Christmas service (since on actual Christmas day much of the congregation would be visiting family), so it was quite different in style and we had an actual choir and there were people who didn't normally come, including a lot more olds. Many of them dressed up. Some people even wearing TIES. The first time I've ever seen someone in a tie besides the obvious hipster wearing a tie "ironically" type thing. I'm a little worried about where I'm going on Christmas Eve now and if there will be more ties than hoodies and torn jeans.

I'm one of the few guys out there who actually PREFERS to wear a suit and tie to Sunday Morning Worship.  I normally don't do that, because nobody in our church does, but once in a while I do especially on Easter and the Fourth of July and sometimes Christmas.  I actually plan to wear a suit Christmas Morning, why? Because I want to.
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Joe Biden 2020
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 10:29:11 PM »

American Jews celebrate it much more heavily because it takes place around the same time as Christmas and Jewish parents don't want their kids to get jealous of their Gentile neighbors.

Heck, a good chunk of them have just given up and decided to celebrate Christmas.

Well. if the Christians can't "get" Judaism, then at least they have Jesus.

And, no disrespect to my friends of other religions or no religion, Jesus is all we need.
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