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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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« on: January 12, 2005, 02:55:18 AM »

Rossi won, but he doesn't get to be Governor.  Oh well, Washington's loss.  Ultimately, it will also tarnish the state Democratic Party to have "found" all these King County votes and Rossi can have almost any job he wants in that state now.  Look out Senator Patty "Osama Mama" Murray.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2005, 05:56:44 PM »

Rossi won, but he doesn't get to be Governor.  Oh well, Washington's loss.  Ultimately, it will also tarnish the state Democratic Party to have "found" all these King County votes and Rossi can have almost any job he wants in that state now.  Look out Senator Patty "Osama Mama" Murray.

She's not up until 2010. Do you mean Cantwell?

I named Murray because she is more vulnerable, seeing as she praised bin Laden.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2005, 11:56:44 PM »

Rossi won, but he doesn't get to be Governor.  Oh well, Washington's loss.  Ultimately, it will also tarnish the state Democratic Party to have "found" all these King County votes and Rossi can have almost any job he wants in that state now.  Look out Senator Patty "Osama Mama" Murray.

She's not up until 2010. Do you mean Cantwell?

I named Murray because she is more vulnerable, seeing as she praised bin Laden.

It didn't cost her this time did it?

Congratulations Washington!  You're officially a third world country!

Fraudulent elections and preference for Osama over Bush.  I can't believe Democrats are actually proud that Murray survived.

Rossi won, but he doesn't get to be Governor.  Oh well, Washington's loss.  Ultimately, it will also tarnish the state Democratic Party to have "found" all these King County votes and Rossi can have almost any job he wants in that state now.  Look out Senator Patty "Osama Mama" Murray.

Not much to reply to in this post. I'm surprised, John, that you'd make a post like this without explaining yourself. I know of very few people who watch this election closely and are convinced of a Rossi win.

My explaination is pretty simple.  We won, you didn't like the outcome, so you counted again.  You still didn't win, so you bought a recount and you found enough votes to "win".  Never mind the obvious problem we should all have with a political party being allowed to have as many recounts as it is willing to buy, the alleged Governor, Ms. Gregoire, won on what appear outwardly to be fraudulent votes.

Rossi was the winner of the count and the recount.  He was certified as legitimate.  Now the state expects me to accept that their first two CERTIFIED counts were wrong, and this certification invalidates them?  Given the obvious shenanigans in King county?

If you know few people who are convinced Rossi won, then you must not know many Republicans, because as I said before, he was twice certified as the winner by the Secretary of State.  Its life, sometimes you get cheated and you have to live with it, and if the GOP had been more aware, they could have pre-empted this kind of fraud, but don't pretend that this was all on the up and up.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2005, 12:59:50 AM »

Alcon,

If you're following this as closely as you say you have, then you are lying about one point.  You present Rossi as a willing participant in the second recount.  He had this to say about the prospect of a second recount:

"This really is sad and desperate," he said. "How much do they want to put the voters of Washington through? We were elected and certified twice. I have faith in voters; Christine Gregoire has faith in lawyers."

Alcon, you are so full of crap to say that Rossi happily went along with the recount.

I am well aware of the rule stipulating a second reoc**nt, I am also aware that Rossi won.  We won two out fo three, in most things that's good enough.  It seems that you, however, are not at all aware that this is in fact precedent for a re-vote, and that Washington has laws allowing for exactly this phenomenon.  And I have not asked for a re-vote by the way, so don't put words in my mouth saying I did.  I am simply asking for what is fair: For Dino Rossi, the rightful Governor of Washington, to be allowed to assume the office.  No revote is necessary, though it is allowed.
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2005, 01:15:11 AM »

I have seen the very opposite (an RFC or something of that sort?), too. This is all so confusing.

That John Ford should pay more attention to the story, huh?
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2005, 02:35:46 AM »

I am simply asking for what is fair: For Dino Rossi, the rightful Governor of Washington, to be allowed to assume the office.  No revote is necessary, though it is allowed.

Show me 130* illegally cast votes and I might agree with you.



*129 would mean a potential tie.

This from the Wall Street Journal:

"Democrat Christine Gregoire will be sworn in as Washington's Governor today, possibly thanks to voters such as Mary Coffey, James Courneya and Rosalie Simpson. Why do we mention them in particular? Because, as the Seattle Post-Intelligencer recently reported, they're all dead--and have been since well before the first absentee ballots were even mailed out.

Revelations of the formerly living casting ballots in elections isn't new to American politics, although it's something most of us thought was a relic of the late Richard Daley's Chicago. But this isn't the only jaw-dropper to have come out of Washington's gubernatorial race, which Ms. Gregoire claims to have won--on a third recount, by 129 votes--over Republican Dino Rossi. Now Mr. Rossi is contesting the result in state court, hoping a judge will find enough evidence of fraud or incompetence to order a revote, a prospect Ms. Gregoire calls "absolutely ludicrous."

Mr. Rossi certainly has a mountain of evidence on his side. In December, officials in King County, which includes Seattle, discovered 573 "erroneously rejected" absentee ballots, plus another 150 uncounted ones that showed up in a South Seattle warehouse. There were reports that hundreds of voters were registered in storage rental facilities and private mailboxes, that felons had voted, and that military ballots were sent out too late to be counted. Then we learned that several hundred provisional ballots had simply been fed into voting machines, making it impossible to authenticate their legality. Now it turns out the number of votes cast in King County exceeds the total number of voters by about 1,800."
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The Duke
JohnD.Ford
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,270


Political Matrix
E: 0.13, S: -1.23

« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2005, 07:47:13 PM »

Above all, though, I apologize for the poor tone of my post. I do not know what was wrong with me; I am not normally like this when discussing things. I have great respect for you as a poster and hold your opinions in high regards. If I made that post and knew at the time it sounded angry, I was not of sound mind. My deepest apologies.

Its cool.  Yeah, you got to me a little.  I was actually surprised by the tone of that post, because you've always been very respectful and isightful.  We all have a bad day or too, I won't think anything of it.
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