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RIP Lincoln Alexander

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Forum Ontario numbers with different Liberals leaders.

Dwight Duncan
PC 40% / NDP 39% / LIB 16% / GRN 4%

Deb Matthews
PC 38% / NDP 36% / LIB 20% / GRN 5%

Kathleen Wynne
PC 35% / NDP 36% / LIB 22% / GRN 6%

George Smitherman
PC 36% / NDP 35% / LIB 23% / GRN 5%

Michael Bryant
PC 39% / NDP 37% / LIB 18% / GRN 5%

Brad Duguid
PC 36% / NDP 38% / LIB 20% / GRN 5%

The moral is, the Liberals need a leader from Toronto... in order to get above 20% support. Someone got a fork?

Interesting. I know we just did a poll for a non-profit client that showed the NDP ahead. It was conducted just after McGuinty resigned.

Charbonneau update: Tremblay was allegedly in the room when illegal financing was discussed. If true, manure, meet fan.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/testimony-in-quebec-corruption-probe-directly-implicates-montreal-mayor/article4754334/

In less disturbing municipal news, Chow would whup Ford in a 2-way matchup.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/10/30/matt-gurney-fords-dumb-mistakes-make-mayor-olivia-chow-more-likely/

Woot. We dont want to lose her federally, though

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While it would be great for the average voter, I would vote for a fringe party before voting Liberal.

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(also, for those more fluent in French, what is "l'obligation d'utiliser un générique en français avec un nom de commerce anglais"? The only sense I can make of this is that it's about things like saying "un mouchoir" instead of "un kleenex", but surely they're not going to write that into the law?)

No, it's not that. Its the stores which must have a French name. The government already requires it, but some businesses aren't willing to follow, saying they interpret the law another way. It's on the way to the courts.

To solve that, PQ wants to clearly write it in the law. For example, Starbucks Coffee is called Café Starbucks and Staples is called Bureau en Gros, Giant Tiger is called Tigre Géant.

Other businesses must add a generical French name to their name (magasin, électronique, etc.). Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Costco, Gap, Old Navy and Guess are suing.

Some companies have been doing this for years, like KFC (PFK).

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lol London

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I just remembered that the photo of David McGuinty on Wikipedia has me in the background. No idea who took it. You can sort of see my NDP pin.  It was taken at my old high school.

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I just remembered that the photo of David McGuinty on Wikipedia has me in the background. No idea who took it. You can sort of see my NDP pin.  It was taken at my old high school.

Are you the guy in the Nordiques hat?

Yup

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More jackassery from the Brothers Ford: "Olivia Chow is no Jack Layton." Ugh.

lol wut. I've actually heard that Olivia is quite a bit smarter than Jack.

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Nanos tracking poll has Tories 34, Grits 29, NDP 27.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/11/21/pol-nanos-number-nov21-comptency.html

Sun: Yeah I know, but when I posted they were the only ones with the story...

Those are decent numbers coming from Nanos.

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It's not like Quebec, council decides whether or not to have a by-election.

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London mayor Joe Fontana is facing a vote of non confidence (didn't know mayors could face that).

So, potentially 4 Canadian mayors of 4 major cities gone in scandal in a period of a month.

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It's not like Quebec, council decides whether or not to have a by-election.

How do you think TO will vote?

Fontana: Hopefully they get him out.

I don't know. There's not much precedent for a mayoral by-election. But, we are 2 years away, so I think they should have one.

As for Fontana, apparently non confidence votes don't matter on city councils. He can just go "whatever" and keep running the show.

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BOO!

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Why does Speaker Scheer hate democracy?

His partisan affiliation might give you a clue.

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Did he rule or not? The article is contradictory on that point. If he didn't, I expect him to rule in her favour. Ugh.

That omnibus will also go through tonight.

That Place projects a comfortable Dipper win in BC, 63-22 in seats.

Why do you dislike The 308?

Eric Grenier is no Nate Silver. He gets way too much attention for a sh** predictor.

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Not again.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/commons-set-to-face-more-complex-abortion-debate-this-time-over-sex-selection-182233201.html

Max: Huh? Grenier's a Francophone and IIRC, a self-admitted BQ supporter.

Is he really? That's hilarious! Wtf does he care about the rest of the country's politics then?

Kinda makes me hate him more.

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Can anybody give me the link to where Grenier says he supports the BQ? I've always been curious what way he leans politically given that he tries almost absurdly hard to be uber-neutral in his 308 posts.

The only thing he tries absurdly hard at is being terrible at everything.

OK, maybe I'm being a little too harsh on him eh?

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Can anybody give me the link to where Grenier says he supports the BQ? I've always been curious what way he leans politically given that he tries almost absurdly hard to be uber-neutral in his 308 posts.

The only thing he tries absurdly hard at is being terrible at everything.

OK, maybe I'm being a little too harsh on him eh?

You're so nice about everything else that I rather enjoy your OTT fuming at him.

Hahaha. I'm not that really nice. But I do find it amusing that you enjoy my fuming. Seems out of your character, but I guess you're quite loyal

Bruce Hyer turned up at a Grit Xmas party with Murray (from Twitter). "Progressive who wants inter-progressive cooperation."

If anything, he'd join the Greens.

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Bruce Hyer turned up at a Grit Xmas party with Murray (from Twitter). "Progressive who wants inter-progressive cooperation."

He is probably shopping to see which party will offer him the most.

Well, he did tell me one of the  (minor) reasons he moved to Canada was his love of Tommy Douglas and Pierre Trudeau. But he doesn't think much of his son.

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PM will meet First Nations leaders.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/canada/canadian-press-newsalert-pm-to-meet-first-nations-leaders-next-friday-185659032.html

Excellent news.

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*face palm* that's an 18-19% swing from the NDP to Liberals.

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I answered that Angus Reid survey two days ago. I am in their web based panel.

I am too; I didn't get that survey though.

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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/olivia-chow-diagnosed-with-viral-infection-that-causes-partial-face-paralysis/article6939315/

Hopefully she'll get better. It doesn't look that bad.

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True. I'm somewhat surprised as it seemed that the Tory floor was 30% or so. Obviously that isn't the case.

It probably still is, actually.

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Yes, and most of that will come back to the NDP. The Tories are quite useful in scaring would-be Liberal voters in to the NDP camp. Maybe I should donate to them

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Im really upset about the Sask robocalls. Tories want US style redistricting?