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« Reply #1425 on: June 09, 2013, 01:17:49 PM »

From the same Scrum: O'Connor is a martinet and Van Loan is the most reviled member of caucus. Neither particularly surprising IMO.
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« Reply #1426 on: June 10, 2013, 10:43:17 AM »

Here's the NS poll we've been waiting for: Grits 45, NDP/PC 26. Meanwhile in NL the Tories have slumped into a distant third at 27, with Dippers at 37 and Grits at 36. Dunderdale tied with Marois at 2-1 disapproval. My own post-BC assumption is that regardless of polls, provincial incumbents win unless the votes say otherwise.
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« Reply #1427 on: June 10, 2013, 12:41:23 PM »

What the heck is happening in NL Huh

And NS is very disappointing, but to be expected I guess.
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« Reply #1428 on: June 10, 2013, 03:48:12 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2013, 08:04:18 PM by RogueBeaver »

Ivison follows up on yesterday's QP by suggesting that backbench discontent could be soothed by moving Van Loan and O'Connor. I agree 100%, question is who'd replace them. Said people have to be firm yet understanding, among other things. I can think of people who are too firm and people who are too soft.

Budget has been passed.
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« Reply #1429 on: June 10, 2013, 04:18:09 PM »

My guesstimate of the NS #'s

Liberal: 31
NDP: 13
PC: 7

The Liberals sweep the province. The NDP maintains their urban Halifax stronghold but loses the suburbs. The Tories are scattered across the province, with a notable stronghold in Cumberland County.
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« Reply #1430 on: June 10, 2013, 08:15:30 PM »

Canadian Soccer Federation is expelling the QSF for their turban ban.
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« Reply #1431 on: June 11, 2013, 10:26:57 AM »

Scheer will wait for the courts to sort out Glover and Bezan's expenses before ruling.
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« Reply #1432 on: June 11, 2013, 11:15:50 AM »

Canadian Soccer Federation is expelling the QSF for their turban ban.

lol. Excellent.
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« Reply #1433 on: June 11, 2013, 11:27:03 AM »

Quebec will soon legalize assisted suicide with all party support in the Assembly and largely supportive public opinion. Doubtful Ottawa appeals to the Supremes. I'm neither surprised about their initiative nor supportive myself.
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« Reply #1434 on: June 11, 2013, 01:11:06 PM »


Kind of surprised none of the parties are voting against it. I figured CAQ would have a few socons.
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« Reply #1435 on: June 11, 2013, 02:15:45 PM »

Tkachuk is resigning as IE chair due to cancer, but he'll remain a committee member.  Sen. Gerald Comeau is the likely next chair.

DC: You shouldn't be.

As a side note, I like that CPAC now lets you hear both French and the voiceover rather than just voiceover as it used to be.
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« Reply #1436 on: June 11, 2013, 03:06:27 PM »


Kind of surprised none of the parties are voting against it. I figured CAQ would have a few socons.

Are there really any "socon" parts of Quebec? There are xenophobic parts of Quebec, and there are free market types in the Beauce, but socons?

Speaking of which, what party is more socially conservative CAQ or PLQ? My money is on the PLQ.
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« Reply #1437 on: June 11, 2013, 03:19:58 PM »

CAQ probably, given their ADQ roots. PLQ's definitely socially liberal.

On another subject, TSB's VIA 92 report is out.
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« Reply #1438 on: June 11, 2013, 03:25:58 PM »

CAQ probably, given their ADQ roots. PLQ's definitely socially liberal.

What about their base? I picture the PLQ base as being more conservative.
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« Reply #1439 on: June 11, 2013, 03:33:02 PM »

I don't think so- PLQ base is non-Francophones and a small chunk of Francophones. If you asked them about euthanasia, abortion, capital punishment, guns, etc., doubt you'd be much surprised at their answers.
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« Reply #1440 on: June 11, 2013, 04:22:44 PM »

CAQ probably, given their ADQ roots. PLQ's definitely socially liberal.

What about their base? I picture the PLQ base as being more conservative.

PLQ base is Anglos (who tend to be wealthier) & upper middle class francophones. Those people seem more like Jon Huntsman than Mike Huckabee. CAQ has more of a rural conservative vibe going on.

I suppose social conservatism in Quebec died with Dupleissis.
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« Reply #1441 on: June 11, 2013, 05:12:35 PM »

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.
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« Reply #1442 on: June 11, 2013, 06:30:24 PM »

Liberal-voting allophones/immigrants might also tend to be quite/very socially conservative, particularly Italian Catholics, Arabs or Haitians (Catholics). But they're very rarely vocal about that kind of stuff so they're not really noteworthy.

And obviously the Orthodox Jews would be very socially conservative.
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« Reply #1443 on: June 11, 2013, 08:05:29 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2013, 08:35:49 PM by RogueBeaver »

Auditor-General might look through all Senate expenses, he'll decide in the next few weeks.

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« Reply #1444 on: June 11, 2013, 08:36:23 PM »

More FTA concessions.
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« Reply #1445 on: June 11, 2013, 08:47:13 PM »

My friend's uncle is Peter MacKay's Chief of Staff. The friend says his uncle is quitting for some reason.
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« Reply #1446 on: June 11, 2013, 08:51:11 PM »

For the private sector apparently. MacKay's getting another COS, so I wouldn't read that as a shuffle tea leaf even if I think MacKay should be moved sideways.
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« Reply #1447 on: June 11, 2013, 09:49:27 PM »

Report from La Presse that the Quebec government is coordinating QSF's PR and will keep the decision secret for 10 days, which may be also used for SJB purposes.
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« Reply #1448 on: June 11, 2013, 11:24:43 PM »

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...
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« Reply #1449 on: June 12, 2013, 07:14:42 AM »

PM doing some impersonations backstage before his E-Night rally 2 years ago. He should do this sort of thing more often.
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