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« Reply #425 on: April 21, 2012, 06:29:25 pm »

The Young Liberals are such potheads.

That reminds me of a political organization over here (the UK) that used to exist (and maybe still does?), with the same name. But they were basically quasi-Marxists. Peter Hain was a member.
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« Reply #426 on: April 21, 2012, 06:43:30 pm »

Peter Hain was actually their leader. Pretty sure Richard Burden (MP for Birmingham Longbridge Northfield) was a member was well.
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« Reply #427 on: April 21, 2012, 09:22:55 pm »

IIRC they tried to push through C&T before Rae shot that down. So yeah, don't trust them to judge the politics of policy.

Another Coyne idea was for the Grits to hoist the national unity banner and run against the NDP's opposition to the Clarity Act. While I entirely agree with the principle, that's an electoral nonstarter in ROQ.

C&T?
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« Reply #428 on: April 21, 2012, 09:33:41 pm »

Cap and Trade.
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« Reply #429 on: April 23, 2012, 02:08:39 pm »

Dipper quits caucus over gun registry.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/gun-registry-opponent-bruce-hyer-quits-ndp-to-sit-as-independent/article2411269/


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« Reply #430 on: April 23, 2012, 02:38:58 pm »
« Edited: April 23, 2012, 02:49:36 pm by Marokai Béliqueux »

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A hearty congratulations to Horwath.
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« Reply #431 on: April 23, 2012, 02:56:37 pm »

I'm not surprised. McGuinty is a left-Liberal and more generally has the spine of a jellyfish.
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« Reply #432 on: April 23, 2012, 03:01:45 pm »


I intern in his office! But, I haven't been there in a couple of weeks. This really affects me a lot. I've been counting on contract work in that office to supplement my income.

What do I do?

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« Reply #433 on: April 23, 2012, 03:10:52 pm »


I intern in his office! But, I haven't been there in a couple of weeks. This really affects me a lot. I've been counting on contract work in that office to supplement my income.

What do I do?

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How does that change your employment status? Or is your contract to him include something about the party?
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« Reply #434 on: April 23, 2012, 03:16:50 pm »


I intern in his office! But, I haven't been there in a couple of weeks. This really affects me a lot. I've been counting on contract work in that office to supplement my income.

What do I do?

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How does that change your employment status? Or is your contract to him include something about the party?

Well, it's contract work. I work for x hrs for x $ on certain office projects. I don't think party affiliation matters. I just hate turncoats, so this is just a struggle within myself. Do I even put my work in his office on my resume when looking for an NDP job? Hmm...
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« Reply #435 on: April 23, 2012, 03:18:37 pm »


I intern in his office! But, I haven't been there in a couple of weeks. This really affects me a lot. I've been counting on contract work in that office to supplement my income.

What do I do?

Sad

How does that change your employment status? Or is your contract to him include something about the party?

Well, it's contract work. I work for x hrs for x $ on certain office projects. I don't think party affiliation matters. I just hate turncoats, so this is just a struggle within myself. Do I even put my work in his office on my resume when looking for an NDP job? Hmm...

No one has to know you worked there beyond his defection...
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« Reply #436 on: April 23, 2012, 03:20:06 pm »


I intern in his office! But, I haven't been there in a couple of weeks. This really affects me a lot. I've been counting on contract work in that office to supplement my income.

What do I do?

Sad

How does that change your employment status? Or is your contract to him include something about the party?

Well, it's contract work. I work for x hrs for x $ on certain office projects. I don't think party affiliation matters. I just hate turncoats, so this is just a struggle within myself. Do I even put my work in his office on my resume when looking for an NDP job? Hmm...

No one has to know you worked there beyond his defection...

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« Reply #437 on: April 23, 2012, 03:31:53 pm »

Ok, well, I'm going into the office on Wednesday. We'll see how things go from there. Probably won't share any information though.

FTR, while Hyer endorsed Cullen in the leadership race he said he would be happy with Mulcair.

""I have been thinking carefully about a successor since Jack's tragic death. I have worked with most of the candidates for over three years, and am impressed by most of them. I have questioned them all closely. All the candidates got back to me with thoughtful responses to my questions except for Peggy Nash. I will be voting for only 3 nominees on the preferential ballot: Nathan Cullen, Thomas Mulcair, and Paul Dewar."
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« Reply #438 on: April 23, 2012, 03:39:53 pm »

A Northern Ontario New Democrat. I'm pissed right now. Stupid.
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« Reply #439 on: April 23, 2012, 03:43:40 pm »

What does everyone make of Mulcair's Shadow Cabinet reshuffle? Certainly making a better use of available talent than either Harper or Rae is ATM.
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« Reply #440 on: April 23, 2012, 03:47:06 pm »

What does everyone make of Mulcair's Shadow Cabinet reshuffle? Certainly making a better use of available talent than either Harper or Rae is ATM.

Well, Bruce Hyer didn't like it, apparently.
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« Reply #441 on: April 23, 2012, 05:46:04 pm »

Well screw Bruce Hyer. He doesn't care about Northern Ontario. Just cares about himself. Jerk.
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« Reply #442 on: April 23, 2012, 07:40:05 pm »

I'm so furious right now. First this. Now that idiot Bev Oda's hotel scandal, after Harper's budget cut her ministry by the tune of nearly $400 million and after his budget raises our retirement age and cuts our pensions. And it cost the taxpayers $665 a night. Of course, she paid the difference. But it's like we're paying them. We are paying them to f.uck us over. And they're laughing. Because they win, they always win. They lie and cheat and they always win. I can't stand it.
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« Reply #443 on: April 23, 2012, 08:01:10 pm »

Oda's not my favourite either- I think her ministry should be shuttered entirely (indeed, the Cabinet can be nearly halved IMO) or at least handed over to someone competent. Say, Chris Alexander.
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« Reply #444 on: April 23, 2012, 08:33:20 pm »

Oh, another Liberal is saying than Quebec is heading for independence.
Michael Ignatieff.

http://www.canada.com/news/Quebec+headed+independence+Ignatieff+tells+radio/6505048/story.html
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« Reply #445 on: April 23, 2012, 08:48:35 pm »

Who was the first? As usual, Iggy's talking BS. That issue is left to a trio of Pelciquistes- Dion, Garneau and Trudeau.
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« Reply #446 on: April 23, 2012, 09:05:44 pm »

A Northern Ontario New Democrat. I'm pissed right now. Stupid.

So his reasoning is that 'in four years, if the NDP forms government and if Mulcair is Prime Minister, he plans on reintroducing the long gun registry and this is likely to be a whipped vote? Oh, and by the way, it just so happens that, and this is just a coincidence, I was passed over for a shadow ministry. My constituents are therefore not valued by Mulcair...' That's what I take from his statement on his website, anyway:

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« Reply #447 on: April 24, 2012, 01:09:21 am »

Anybody care to give me a quick rundown of politics in Canada? Like what are the major parties, what the political geography is like (where are the given parties strong and vice versa) and recent changes. All I know is that the Conservatives are in power an they do really well in Alberta. I'd really like to know more. 
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« Reply #448 on: April 24, 2012, 04:42:47 am »

Anybody care to give me a quick rundown of politics in Canada? Like what are the major parties, what the political geography is like (where are the given parties strong and vice versa) and recent changes. All I know is that the Conservatives are in power an they do really well in Alberta. I'd really like to know more. 

There are five parties with MPs elected federally - the Conservatives (with a majority), the left-wing NDP (Official Opposition), the slightly-to-the-left-of-centre Liberals (were Opposition until last year, when they lost most of their seats, including their leader's), the Bloc Quebecois (platform is independence for Quebec), and the Greens hold a seat in BC.

With the exception of the NDP, provincial parties aren't affiliated with their federal counterparts, I believe, and while the NDP did best in Quebec federally, there is no provincial NDP in that province. This will lead you to correctly infer that provincial and national elections aren't held concurrently.

There are numerous maps in the International Elections gallery, and discussions about the politics in the International Elections board, just a few boards up.

Earl has a great website, which you should be able to find through google, although there are links in the Alberta election thread, too, he calls it Canadian Election Atlas, and hosts it at blogspot. The506, another poster on here, has a really good webpage, too, but I can't remember the link.

So the maps make sense, Conservatives (Tories) are blue, the NDP (Dippers) are orange, the Liberals (Grits) are red, the Bloc are light blue/aqua and the Greens are, well, green (except in provincial politics, where it is the various conservative parties - Wildrose, the Saskatchewan Party or the Yukon Party).

Oh, and in case you hadn't seen, the NDP stands for New Democrats.
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« Reply #449 on: April 24, 2012, 09:05:33 am »
« Edited: April 24, 2012, 09:39:57 am by Holmes »

I think the federal Liberals are associated with some of the provincial parties, ftr. I believe they're all in the Maritimes, though.


New CROP poll of Quebec has NDP at 51%, Bloc at 18%, Liberals at 15%, Conservatives at 12%. So which ridings wouldn't go NDP? Mount Royal? Maybe Saint-Laurent-Cartierville? Beauce?
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