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« Reply #475 on: April 29, 2012, 03:20:56 am »


They polled 41% later that year:

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« Reply #476 on: April 29, 2012, 01:30:19 pm »

Proof that the NDP isn't at its all time peak.
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« Reply #477 on: April 30, 2012, 10:02:17 pm »

We were all totally shocked by this. Right?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/30/bob-rae-likely-to-to-resign-from-interim-gig-to-run-for-liberal-party-leadership/

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« Reply #478 on: May 02, 2012, 05:52:55 pm »

Rae is a loser. With Mulcair at the helm of the NDP and considering his past, he won't bring the party up. For being such a Parliamentarian, he's been disappointing lately. If only he'd retire so the NDP had a better chance at Toronto Centre.
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« Reply #479 on: May 02, 2012, 08:08:39 pm »

Who else is there that's a) in caucus b) willing to run c) would do a better job?
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« Reply #480 on: May 02, 2012, 08:20:45 pm »

No one really fits that description.
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« Reply #481 on: May 02, 2012, 08:39:17 pm »

Yeah, there are people who fit b/c or a/c but none who fit all 3.
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« Reply #482 on: May 02, 2012, 10:02:30 pm »

If ever Harper had an excuse to sack both MacKay and Clement simultaneously, this is it.

http://www.hilltimes.com/news/news/2012/05/02/dnd-amended-report-on-f-35-status-two-weeks-after-ag-ferguson-released-his-report/30623

He'd certainly be better than Hudak, but is far too valuable where he is.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1171299--tim-harper-stephen-harper-tells-jim-flaherty-to-lay-off-ontario?bn=1

WTF? Don't troll.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/02/harper-demands-mulcair-apologize-for-suggestion-that-conrad-black-decision-was-racist/

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« Reply #483 on: May 03, 2012, 11:30:29 am »

Who do you folk have in mind who would do a better job and are in caucus, but won't run?
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« Reply #484 on: May 04, 2012, 04:18:49 pm »

So this is Geulph-only, at least thus far?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/politics/Robocalls%2Baddress%2Bsame%2Bused%2BConservative%2Bcandidate%2Bcampaign%2Bworker%2BElections%2BCanada%2Balleges/6567696/story.html


No sh**t.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/bc-liberals-would-face-thrashing-if-election-held-now-poll-shows/article2422205/

How Redford won.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/inside-albertas-winning-progressive-conservative-campaign/article2422953/


Not yet, if ever (Over to you, Bob Rae).

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/05/04/justin-trudeau-should-be-the-next-leader-of-the-liberal-party-no-seriously/
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« Reply #485 on: May 04, 2012, 07:09:42 pm »

Haha. "We're so horrible and pathetic, let's change our name. Maybe people won't know who we really are."
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« Reply #486 on: May 04, 2012, 07:59:46 pm »

Haha. "We're so horrible and pathetic, let's change our name. Maybe people won't know who we really are."

True, but suppose the B.C. Conservatives and B.C. Liberals were to merge, what would be an acceptable name?  B.C. Progressives?
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« Reply #487 on: May 04, 2012, 08:03:54 pm »

Why should they merge at this stage? The Tories may be able to pull off a provincial equivalent of what happened federally in the '90s. Merger, but with the new party by and for the right. Dunno if Cummins is looking that far ahead, but that would certainly be my long-term goal.
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« Reply #488 on: May 04, 2012, 08:40:38 pm »

I have no idea why they should merge (other than the obvious of forming a united front against the BC NDP.  But the article you gave the link for on the idea of a name change for the B.C. Liberals indicated that their leader thought a name change would help the prospects of a merge.
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« Reply #489 on: May 05, 2012, 06:57:04 pm »

Even if there is pressure, 99% sure that it comes to nothing.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1173339--hebert-is-justin-trudeau-the-liberals-salvation
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« Reply #490 on: May 06, 2012, 06:51:45 pm »
« Edited: May 06, 2012, 06:53:31 pm by Frontline: Wisconsin »

Dix said on QP that he's completely opposed to Gateway and isn't so hot on other new pipeline routes either. Harper and Redford are going to have a serious problem on this issue a year from now.

More Justinmania, this time from Tim Harper.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1174001--tim-harper-bob-rae-tells-liberals-to-remain-calm-hold-the-middle-ground

Mulcair parrots McGuinty.

http://www.theprovince.com/business/High%2Bloonie%2Bcausing%2Bharm%2Bsays%2BMulcair/6574256/story.html

Holy shoot. I'm agreeing with Carol Goar.

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1173518--after-six-years-in-government-harper-is-getting-sloppy
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« Reply #491 on: May 10, 2012, 05:17:02 pm »
« Edited: May 10, 2012, 05:20:45 pm by Holmes »

Harris Decima Federal Poll (changes from April 2)

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NDP 34% (+2)
CON 30% (-4)
LIB 20% (+1)
GRN 8% (same)
BQ 7% (+1)


Damn, those Atlantic and Ontario numbers. BC and Quebec aren't looking as hot as they were, though.
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« Reply #492 on: May 10, 2012, 05:19:13 pm »

Seat count anyone?
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« Reply #493 on: May 10, 2012, 05:21:37 pm »

With the 30 new seats? Slim Conservative minority, I bet.
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« Reply #494 on: May 10, 2012, 05:28:17 pm »

Presumably you guys are still in second since our Grit friends still don't have a real regional base. Quebec will determine what happens, again.
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« Reply #495 on: May 10, 2012, 05:45:13 pm »

I know. A 32-31 tie in Ontario can still be 30+ more Conservative seats than the NDP in the province.
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« Reply #496 on: May 10, 2012, 06:23:22 pm »

NDP really needs to swoop those non Alberta seats in the West.
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« Reply #497 on: May 10, 2012, 06:34:09 pm »

BC is winnable for Dippers. Not so much SK, MB so long as Mulcair keeps parroting McGuinty with talk of "Dutch disease" plus C&T.
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« Reply #498 on: May 10, 2012, 06:39:37 pm »

BC is winnable for Dippers. Not so much SK, MB so long as Mulcair keeps parroting McGuinty with talk of "Dutch disease" plus C&T.

I wonder how the NDP will be doing in the polls in BC once the unpopular Liberal government is voted out of office, and an NDP government installed?
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« Reply #499 on: May 10, 2012, 06:45:53 pm »

Current levels or slightly better. I don't know much about Dix but he gives me the impression of soft-spoken middling-left, if that makes any sense.

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