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« Reply #1450 on: June 11, 2013, 08:05:29 pm »
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Auditor-General might look through all Senate expenses, he'll decide in the next few weeks.

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« Reply #1451 on: June 11, 2013, 08:36:23 pm »

More FTA concessions.
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« Reply #1452 on: June 11, 2013, 08:47:13 pm »

My friend's uncle is Peter MacKay's Chief of Staff. The friend says his uncle is quitting for some reason.
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« Reply #1453 on: June 11, 2013, 08:51:11 pm »

For the private sector apparently. MacKay's getting another COS, so I wouldn't read that as a shuffle tea leaf even if I think MacKay should be moved sideways.
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« Reply #1454 on: June 11, 2013, 09:49:27 pm »

Report from La Presse that the Quebec government is coordinating QSF's PR and will keep the decision secret for 10 days, which may be also used for SJB purposes.
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« Reply #1455 on: June 11, 2013, 11:24:43 pm »

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...
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« Reply #1456 on: June 12, 2013, 07:14:42 am »

PM doing some impersonations backstage before his E-Night rally 2 years ago. He should do this sort of thing more often.
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« Reply #1457 on: June 12, 2013, 08:17:31 am »

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.
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« Reply #1458 on: June 12, 2013, 09:18:44 am »

FSQ is keeping the turban ban, asking the CSF to engage in dialogue. FIFA's deferring to CSF, so the ban will likely stay for the foreseeable future.
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« Reply #1459 on: June 12, 2013, 02:12:38 pm »

Cameron says we're close on EFTA. Ivison agrees and thinks we might get an agreement in principle.
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« Reply #1460 on: June 12, 2013, 02:53:30 pm »

Harb owes $240k.
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« Reply #1461 on: June 12, 2013, 03:13:40 pm »

Radio host calls Andrea Horvath a whore. Sad
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« Reply #1462 on: June 12, 2013, 04:43:08 pm »

That host's a pig. Meanwhile Del Maestro resurfaced on PNP and PP reasserting his innocence in that campaign finance probe, more mellow than usual but saying EC showed "malice" in prosecuting him. LOL. Dunno why he chose to reappear out of the blue like this, but to each their own and all that...
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« Reply #1463 on: June 12, 2013, 05:18:04 pm »

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

It's very variable depending where you are there. All Eastern Townships were English majority at a point, I think, through.

Estrie (the administration region of Eastern Townships, except Brome-Missisquoi and Haute-Yamaska MRCs): 7.6%

Cities:
Sherbrooke: 4.9%
Magog: 6.7%
Coaticook: 4.9%
Lac-Mégantic: 1.3%
Windsor: 3.7%

MRC (counties):
Coaticook (South-East): 11.1%
Le Granit (Lac-Mégantic, Far East): 1.6%
Le Haut-Saint-François (Cookshire-Eaton, Est, includes suburbs): 11.4%
Les Sources (Asbestos, North, former mining area): 4.1%
Le Val-Saint-François (Richmond, North-West, includes suburbs): 8.2%
Memphrémagog (Magog, South-West): 16.0%
Brome-Missisquoi: 20.1%
La Haute-Yamaska: 3.9%

Federal ridings:
Brome-Missisquoi: 16.0%
Shefford: 3.5%
Richmond-Arthabaska: 3.3%
Sherbrooke: 3.2%
Mégantic-L'Érable: 1.5%
Compton-Stanstead: 12.2%

So, anglophones declined much there. Most of them are in rural areas, too. In some areas, their weight is not significant.
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« Reply #1464 on: June 12, 2013, 06:21:23 pm »

Doug Ford will retire from council next year.
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« Reply #1465 on: June 12, 2013, 06:49:14 pm »

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

It's very variable depending where you are there. All Eastern Townships were English majority at a point, I think, through.

Estrie (the administration region of Eastern Townships, except Brome-Missisquoi and Haute-Yamaska MRCs): 7.6%

Cities:
Sherbrooke: 4.9%
Magog: 6.7%
Coaticook: 4.9%
Lac-Mégantic: 1.3%
Windsor: 3.7%

MRC (counties):
Coaticook (South-East): 11.1%
Le Granit (Lac-Mégantic, Far East): 1.6%
Le Haut-Saint-François (Cookshire-Eaton, Est, includes suburbs): 11.4%
Les Sources (Asbestos, North, former mining area): 4.1%
Le Val-Saint-François (Richmond, North-West, includes suburbs): 8.2%
Memphrémagog (Magog, South-West): 16.0%
Brome-Missisquoi: 20.1%
La Haute-Yamaska: 3.9%

Federal ridings:
Brome-Missisquoi: 16.0%
Shefford: 3.5%
Richmond-Arthabaska: 3.3%
Sherbrooke: 3.2%
Mégantic-L'Érable: 1.5%
Compton-Stanstead: 12.2%

So, anglophones declined much there. Most of them are in rural areas, too. In some areas, their weight is not significant.

Another way of looking at it would be English (or non-French) ancestry.
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« Reply #1466 on: June 12, 2013, 07:12:35 pm »

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

Ok, well all 3 parties have a rural base. I was perhaps thinking of the PLQ base in the Eastern Townships, but CAQ has a rural base in the Chaudiere-Appalaches and PQ has a rural base everywhere else.

The PLQ base in Eastern Townships is Anglophones, which are moving elsewhere for the youngs and dying for the olds. Also, French people are moving there, for ski, for the universities in Sherbrooke, for the lakes...

How many Anglos are still there though? Not a majority. I guess if 90% of Anglos vote Liberal there, + the average amount of Franco Liberal voters = win in the Eastern Townships.

It's very variable depending where you are there. All Eastern Townships were English majority at a point, I think, through.

Estrie (the administration region of Eastern Townships, except Brome-Missisquoi and Haute-Yamaska MRCs): 7.6%

Cities:
Sherbrooke: 4.9%
Magog: 6.7%
Coaticook: 4.9%
Lac-Mégantic: 1.3%
Windsor: 3.7%

MRC (counties):
Coaticook (South-East): 11.1%
Le Granit (Lac-Mégantic, Far East): 1.6%
Le Haut-Saint-François (Cookshire-Eaton, Est, includes suburbs): 11.4%
Les Sources (Asbestos, North, former mining area): 4.1%
Le Val-Saint-François (Richmond, North-West, includes suburbs): 8.2%
Memphrémagog (Magog, South-West): 16.0%
Brome-Missisquoi: 20.1%
La Haute-Yamaska: 3.9%

Federal ridings:
Brome-Missisquoi: 16.0%
Shefford: 3.5%
Richmond-Arthabaska: 3.3%
Sherbrooke: 3.2%
Mégantic-L'Érable: 1.5%
Compton-Stanstead: 12.2%

So, anglophones declined much there. Most of them are in rural areas, too. In some areas, their weight is not significant.

Another way of looking at it would be English (or non-French) ancestry.

Well, a Francophone having English ancestry isn't really different from another Anglophone. There was a couple of influent PQ members which had an English ancestry, looking at their name (Robert Burns, Pierre-Marc Johnson...)
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« Reply #1467 on: June 13, 2013, 09:41:30 am »
« Edited: June 13, 2013, 09:46:31 am by RogueBeaver »

308's take on Atlantic Grit-mania. Plus the current federal polls. Always amazing to look back and see how quickly PET and Mulroney went south in their final terms.
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« Reply #1468 on: June 13, 2013, 10:33:44 am »

308's take on Atlantic Grit-mania. Plus the current federal polls. Always amazing to look back and see how quickly PET and Mulroney went south in their final terms.

I think the situation is worse when you consider that half of the majority re-elections were won by Jean Chretien who had the advantage of an almost perfectly divided right wing.
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« Reply #1469 on: June 13, 2013, 10:42:27 am »

Brazeau and Harb have 30 days to repay expenses, dunno if this gets tied up in court.

Polls: Eh, I'm still optimistic for economic and political reasons. Plus if BC didn't teach us to ignore midterm polls, nothing will. However I do believe that if we win in '15, will be the final term before our fellow Canucks replace us with someone else.
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« Reply #1470 on: June 13, 2013, 10:59:41 am »

Brazeau and Harb have 30 days to repay expenses, dunno if this gets tied up in court.

Polls: Eh, I'm still optimistic for economic and political reasons. Plus if BC didn't teach us to ignore midterm polls, nothing will. However I do believe that if we win in '15, will be the final term before our fellow Canucks replace us with someone else.

Do you think Harper will go down with his ship after 2015 or will he quit and let someone else take the hit?
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« Reply #1471 on: June 13, 2013, 11:01:08 am »

Breaking on CTV: Mulcair blew through multiple stop signs and security checkpoints on the Hill, didn't pull over for RCMP till he got to his parking space. Allegedly told the officer "don't you know who I am." He's since apologized for the incident. Not the first time this sort of thing has happened- Guergis, Raitt and Poilievre also had similar incidents. Regardless of party, my advice is the same: chill out. Not cool to go postal on people doing their jobs.
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« Reply #1472 on: June 13, 2013, 11:16:16 am »

Breaking on CTV: Mulcair blew through multiple stop signs and security checkpoints on the Hill, didn't pull over for RCMP till he got to his parking space. Allegedly told the officer "don't you know who I am." He's since apologized for the incident. Not the first time this sort of thing has happened- Guergis, Raitt and Poilievre also had similar incidents. Regardless of party, my advice is the same: chill out. Not cool to go postal on people doing their jobs.

Mulcair is a freaking leader though. What a stupid thing to do.
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« Reply #1473 on: June 13, 2013, 11:26:03 am »

Agreed, considering he's LOTO. Also forgot Blackburn on that list. As for your other question, I could see Harper walking away in mid-mandate for family reasons. But I don't see him ducking out like PET or Mulroney, he'll take the hit if it came to that. Keeping in mind that only King and Pearson left the PMO voluntarily.
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« Reply #1474 on: June 13, 2013, 12:05:38 pm »

Here's the Mulcair video. Speaking of videos, Toronto police were aware of the Ford video before the story broke.
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