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« Reply #1550 on: June 25, 2013, 03:20:14 pm »
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Laurent Blanchard becomes mayor of Montreal

30 votes for him (VM), 28 for Chilitian (former UM) and 3 for Cowell-Poitras (former UM). Croteau (PM) and de Sousa (former UM) withdrew before the vote. Croteau endorsed Blanchard, de Sousa endorsed Chitilian.

Apparently, the deal is than PM supported VM candidate in exchange of support for the office of President of the Executive Council (for Josée Duplessis, city councillor for DeLorimier, in the Plateau borough). That office is being vacated by Laurent Blanchard.

So, if that works, the three parties have one of three higher offices (Blanchard (VM) is mayor, Chilitian (UM) is President of the Municipal Council and Duplessis (PM) would be the President of the Executive Council).
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« Reply #1551 on: June 25, 2013, 03:46:45 pm »

Let's note than Laurent Blanchard left his party when he announced his run.
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« Reply #1552 on: June 25, 2013, 06:12:51 pm »
« Edited: June 25, 2013, 06:34:32 pm by RogueBeaver »

Vic Toews is on the verge of retiring from politics. Heading to the private sector, not a judgeship. No surprise that- question is who gets his job, Glover or Bergen. So guess he'll resign after the shuffle.
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« Reply #1553 on: June 25, 2013, 08:58:34 pm »

Spoke with a staffer at the fundraiser tonight. We've been doing regional polling. Apparently NDP support has gone down the toilet disproportionately outside of Halifax, but is holding up surprisingly well in Halifax. Some resilience on the NDP's part will help them hold seats in the Halifax suburbs.
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« Reply #1554 on: June 26, 2013, 02:35:41 pm »

Liberals and Reds gut 377.  PMO says this isn't over. Reintroduce it in the fall as guv legislation, along with all other IR bills IMO.
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« Reply #1555 on: June 26, 2013, 07:07:51 pm »

Spoke with a staffer at the fundraiser tonight. We've been doing regional polling. Apparently NDP support has gone down the toilet disproportionately outside of Halifax, but is holding up surprisingly well in Halifax. Some resilience on the NDP's part will help them hold seats in the Halifax suburbs.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. It's the only area where the NDP has won seats federally recently. We saw the NDP do worse in some areas in the last federal election.
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« Reply #1556 on: June 26, 2013, 08:14:50 pm »

Spoke with a staffer at the fundraiser tonight. We've been doing regional polling. Apparently NDP support has gone down the toilet disproportionately outside of Halifax, but is holding up surprisingly well in Halifax. Some resilience on the NDP's part will help them hold seats in the Halifax suburbs.

That makes a lot of sense, actually. It's the only area where the NDP has won seats federally recently. We saw the NDP do worse in some areas in the last federal election.

Indeed. In 2009 the NDP racked up some massive majorities in rural seats (Queens, Pictou East, Pictou West, Hants East etc.) that are not really traditional NDP strongholds. It will be interested to see how those seats hold up in the next election.

By my count, you've got 8 completely safe seats in the Halifax area, and another 2 in Cape Breton. Plus you should hold onto Hants East no matter what happens. 11 seats is my worst case scenario for the NDP.
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« Reply #1557 on: June 26, 2013, 10:29:46 pm »

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.
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« Reply #1558 on: June 26, 2013, 10:42:56 pm »

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

Man, she quit that job like 20 years ago Tongue.

I've found myself agreeing with the provincial NDP a lot of decisions. There is still a lot of stuff preventing me from voting NDP, but at least Dexter knows that NS has some major structural issues that need resolving... unlike most of my peers Tongue
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« Reply #1559 on: June 27, 2013, 08:47:16 am »

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

Man, she quit that job like 20 years ago Tongue.

I've found myself agreeing with the provincial NDP a lot of decisions. There is still a lot of stuff preventing me from voting NDP, but at least Dexter knows that NS has some major structural issues that need resolving... unlike most of my peers Tongue

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems). Unfortunately even that is too extreme for Nova Scotians Sad Successive NDP governments are to slowly implement democratic socialism into the province (I call this the Tommy Douglas model). Cheesy

As for Alexa, she should try and get the job back. Only person that can save the party at this point, I think. Remember, when she was leader she was the only NDP MLA with no hope of even forming official opposition. Now she would be in a position to be Premier.
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« Reply #1560 on: June 27, 2013, 09:08:54 am »

More MacKay rumours swirling but IMO to be dismissed as the usual unfounded gossip. Don Martin tweeted yesterday that some ministers and MPs been told to be within 24h of Ottawa in early July,  so that's the shuffle.
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« Reply #1561 on: June 27, 2013, 09:11:47 am »

MacKay rumours about what?
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« Reply #1562 on: June 27, 2013, 09:37:58 am »

About him leaving. Staff turnover's the new excuse.
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« Reply #1563 on: June 27, 2013, 11:50:37 am »

Heh heh heh.

John "epic fail" Tory is thinking about running for mayor of Toronto again. Will he ever learn? But kudos for him, he will split the ever shrinking right wing vote in Toronto.
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« Reply #1564 on: June 27, 2013, 12:09:26 pm »

In any case, if the NDP loses in Nova Scotia, that'll mean a rise in the federal NDP vote there come next election.
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« Reply #1565 on: June 27, 2013, 01:04:32 pm »

In any case, if the NDP loses in Nova Scotia, that'll mean a rise in the federal NDP vote there come next election.

Maybe, but the way things are going there will more likely just be a "trend" rather than an actual rise.
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« Reply #1566 on: June 27, 2013, 01:10:00 pm »

Quebec Court of Appeal rules that the province has no right to the registry data.
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« Reply #1567 on: June 27, 2013, 01:43:28 pm »

In any case, if the NDP loses in Nova Scotia, that'll mean a rise in the federal NDP vote there come next election.

Maybe, but the way things are going there will more likely just be a "trend" rather than an actual rise.

Meh. The NDP has been remarkably stable federally since 1997; 31%, 24%, 28%, 30%, 29%, 30%.

Alexa for leader!

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I'm still hoping the polls are wrong a la BC/AB, but they probably aren't. Also hoping Nova Scotians realize the NDP had to make some tough choices for the better.

Man, she quit that job like 20 years ago Tongue.

I've found myself agreeing with the provincial NDP a lot of decisions. There is still a lot of stuff preventing me from voting NDP, but at least Dexter knows that NS has some major structural issues that need resolving... unlike most of my peers Tongue

As for Alexa, she should try and get the job back. Only person that can save the party at this point, I think. Remember, when she was leader she was the only NDP MLA with no hope of even forming official opposition. Now she would be in a position to be Premier.

That's partially her own doing. The NDP had 4 seats when she was elected (and a shot at 2 more) in Cape Breton. She was the victor in a Chretien/Martin style civil war between the Halifax & Cape Breton wings of the party. She forced out 1/2 the caucus. One of the expelled MLA's formed his own party eventually joined the Liberals and took half of the NDP vote in Cape Breton with him Tongue

Alexa did a good job federally, but she definitely had some growing pains as a provincial leader. Granted, she's probably much better suited to today's NDP than the NDP in 1980.
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« Reply #1568 on: June 27, 2013, 05:42:02 pm »

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems).

So we have you on record now, stating that the only way to fix government problems is to govern like a Tory? [/trolling]
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« Reply #1569 on: June 27, 2013, 06:47:46 pm »

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems).

So we have you on record now, stating that the only way to fix government problems is to govern like a Tory? [/trolling]

Not like a Tory, like a perceived Tory.  Tory government's (especially in Atlantic Canada) aren't particularly fiscally responsible. The NDP has a (wrong) reputation of being fiscally irresponsible. So, it's important that in the first term, for the NDP to prove it's fiscal credibility before moving on to more important socialist economic reforms.
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« Reply #1570 on: June 27, 2013, 08:36:54 pm »

Dexter's government has been quite "Red Tory"-like, which I think any first term NDP government should govern like. (fix previous govt's problems).

So we have you on record now, stating that the only way to fix government problems is to govern like a Tory? [/trolling]

If only Tories were fiscally responsible...
They aren't and are using public money to help their allies, like most parties (here, it's banks, churches and oil companies).
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« Reply #1571 on: June 27, 2013, 08:58:56 pm »

Ivison: shuffle scheduled for the 9th. Now we wait for more specific (he hinted at the broad outlines a couple of weeks ago) scoops on the whos and wheres.
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« Reply #1572 on: June 27, 2013, 11:19:03 pm »

Laval continues to look silly, now the mayor is complaining to the police than escorts attempted to extort him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/06/27/alexandre-duplessis-prostitute_n_3513462.html
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« Reply #1573 on: June 27, 2013, 11:36:52 pm »

New Nanos poll.

Liberals 34, Conservatives 29, NDP 25, Green 6, Bloc 4.

Atlantic: Liberal 40, NDP 35, Conservatives 22, Green 4 (caution, small sample)
Québec: Liberal 35, NDP 30, Bloc 15, Conservatives 13, Green 8
Ontario: Liberal 41, Conservative 29, NDP 22, Green 7
Prairies: Conservatives 54, Liberal 25, NDP 17, Green 3
BC: Conservatives 31, NDP 30, Liberals 28, Green 11
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« Reply #1574 on: June 28, 2013, 12:19:15 am »

Trudeaumania already dying down, especially in QC.
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