Canada General Discussion

[MaxQue]

Federal part of that poll is saying:

Liberals 41, NDP 28, Bloc 17, Conservative 14.
French vote is: Liberals 33, NDP 31, Bloc 20.

[RogueBeaver]

In non-news, both Mulcair and Trudeau have weedy records, Trudeau more recently. Far juicier parts of the oppo files to mine than this, IMO.


Max: That Tory improvement in Quebec City might be worth a couple of extra seats, theoretically, right? As for the rest... narrow Grit seat lead given how ridiculously inefficient their vote is.

[MaxQue]

In non-news, both Mulcair and Trudeau have weedy records, Trudeau more recently. Far juicier parts of the oppo files to mine than this, IMO.


Max: That Tory improvement in Quebec City might be worth a couple of extra seats, theoretically, right? As for the rest... narrow Grit seat lead given how ridiculously inefficient their vote is.

Indeed on weed. The kind of people which would never vote for someone who already took weed is already voting Conservative, anyways. And I'm not sure than which side has a majority support.

As for Tory seats in Quebec, they did 16.5% at last election, so that is still a decline compared to 2011. A comparision is complicated, through, given redistricting.

[Hatman 🍁]

This is going to help Trudeau in Quebec. Remember what happened when revelations came out that Andre Boiscair was using cocaine while in office? His poll numbers skyrocketed!

[MaxQue]

This is going to help Trudeau in Quebec. Remember what happened when revelations came out that Andre Boiscair was using cocaine while in office? His poll numbers skyrocketed!

And crashed badly afterwards.

[Smid]

Any chance of recruiting Rob Ford to run in Montreal?

[MaxQue]

Any chance of recruiting Rob Ford to run in Montreal?

[DC Al Fine]

Any chance of recruiting Rob Ford to run in Montreal?

Hatman said that Trudeau's drug use would help him in Quebec.... Rob Ford uses drugs ergo he would be a good Quebec Tory

[Smid]

Yeah, sorry, I had nothing serious to contribute, so I tried making a joke. Seems it bombed.

[Hatman 🍁]

Rob Ford would be unelectable in Quebec for a vast array of other reasons. Not the least of which would be being from Toronto. (although admittedly that didn't hurt Jack Layton) :/

[MaxQue]

Rob Ford would be unelectable in Quebec for a vast array of other reasons. Not the least of which would be being from Toronto. (although admittedly that didn't hurt Jack Layton) :/

Lack of French and being an hard-right buffoon doesn't help, either.

[RogueBeaver]

Harcourt joins the chorus of Dippers calling for Dix's resignation. Any ideas as to who'll replace him?

[MaxQue]

Quebec political fundraising numbers are out. Low Liberals numbers are caused by the leadership race.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/politique/politique-quebecoise/201308/25/01-4683060-financement-estival-le-pq-a-fait-la-meilleure-recolte.php

Party	Since Mid-June	Since January 1st
PQ	191,558$	636,969$
Liberals	155,558$	229,527$
QS	41,894$	129,743$
CAQ	31,955$	95,105$

CAQ numbers are an absolute disaster.

[RogueBeaver]

Bachand will announce his retirement from politics today. No surprise since it was leadership or bust for him. Meanwhile Couillard is planning to raise the QST, which is already the country's highest provincial sales tax at 9.75%. Making the PLQ attempt to out-left the PQ even more laughable. Cause God forbid they cut spending instead of raising taxes.

[MaxQue]

Bachand will announce his retirement from politics today. No surprise since it was leadership or bust for him. Meanwhile Couillard is planning to raise the QST, which is already the country's highest provincial sales tax at 9.75%. Making the PLQ attempt to out-left the PQ even more laughable. Cause God forbid they cut spending instead of raising taxes.

To be fair, he wants to raise the QST to lower income tax. Obviously, that's an right-wing idea since that will lead the lower and middle classes to pay more tax, while the wealthy will pay less, since QST, like all sales tax, is a flat tax.

[RogueBeaver]

Given the hole Harper's GST cut blew in federal coffers, you'd think the PLQ would be a little more wary. But these are the same guys who quoted Gandhi in support of tax increases, so meh.

[MaxQue]

Given the hole Harper's GST cut blew in federal coffers, you'd think the PLQ would be a little more wary. But these are the same guys who quoted Gandhi in support of tax increases, so meh.

Well, don't worry, it's Quebec. PQ and Liberals are both left-wing in opposition and right-wing in government.

[DC Al Fine]

Bachand will announce his retirement from politics today. No surprise since it was leadership or bust for him. Meanwhile Couillard is planning to raise the QST, which is already the country's highest provincial sales tax at 9.75%. Making the PLQ attempt to out-left the PQ even more laughable. Cause God forbid they cut spending instead of raising taxes.

To be fair, he wants to raise the QST to lower income tax. Obviously, that's an right-wing idea since that will lead the lower and middle classes to pay more tax, while the wealthy will pay less, since QST, like all sales tax, is a flat regressive tax.

FTFY?

[RogueBeaver]

Mac Harb has resigned from the Senate and repaid the $231k. Good riddance. Court will hear the Senate case in November, and Harper won't appoint any new senators till more progress is made on his Senate bill.

[RogueBeaver]

Wright coordinated with Stewart-Olsen and Tkachuk on the Duffy deal.

[RogueBeaver]

Legault would support a "values" bill which was restricted to authority figures, including public school employees.

Federally, Trudeau has hired Stephen Bronfman as his chief fundraiser.

[Hatman 🍁]

Looks like everyone and their mother is admitting pot use. I guess they saw how much it helped Trudeau in the polls.

[RogueBeaver]

Trudeau is wooing Gregor Robertson to run in 2015, but Robertson isn't interested.

[Hatman 🍁]

Good. Hate to see a New Democrat jump ship.

Speaking of jumping ships, former Tory Tom Osborne has joined the Liberals in Nfld. Making that allusive official opposition status there for the NDP harder to get.

[DC Al Fine]

Question for the dippers out there? How come the CCF/NDP never found the success that their labourist counterparts elsewhere did until 2011? Was the Canadian electorate too right wing, the CCF/NDP too left wing or were the Liberals more competent than their UK counterparts?