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A18
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« on: January 01, 2005, 11:40:17 PM »

Depends on whose history you're talking about.  For his supporters, he was a strong champion of American values, life, liberty, and democracy who truly understood what it meant to be a leader and who was unjustly mocked by ridiculous, egotistical intellectuals who were so hopelessly out of touch with reality that it was laughable.  For his opponents, he was a moronic, self-serving, arrogant brat whose only support came from people even dumber than him: people whose only care in life is the Bible and bigotry.

Hopefully, no one from either of these groups will be writing the history.

Hah, that's actually a very good assessment.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2005, 05:50:59 PM »

Why don't you political failures ever worry about incestuous marriage and polygamous marriage?
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2005, 06:22:19 PM »

Losing all three elected branches of government in ten years can be classified as a political failure.
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A18
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2005, 02:39:44 PM »

It's one thing to regulate someone else's behavior, and another to regulate your own behavior. Not recognizing gay marriage is the second.

From the old opebo file:

A full list is just way too much work.

A few favorites:

George Washington, Ronald Reagan, Calvin Coolidge, John Adams (the elder), William McKinley, Grover Cleveland, G.W. Bush. 

Least favorites:

FDR, by far the worst.  Woodrow Wilson and LBJ close seconds. 
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A18
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2005, 03:08:23 PM »

Same sex couples are not specifically barred from getting married. If there are two gay guys, and one decides to get married to a woman, he can do that. Anyone is allowed to marry anyone of the opposite sex.
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A18
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2005, 03:55:15 PM »

Um, yes, it is the state's business what they sanction.

They are not specifically barred from marrying one another. A homosexual man can marry a homosexual woman.
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A18
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2005, 04:20:58 PM »

Um, no, it's not. It's not interfering with anything; all that's being regulated is the states own behavior.
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A18
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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2005, 04:27:10 PM »

The behavior of the state can be regulating the behavior of individuals, but it's not in this case.

Homosexuals are not getting arrested or punished for "getting married." The state is just not sanctioning gay marriage.
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A18
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2005, 04:42:35 PM »

Uh, no. They are not losing money or being denied medical benefits, and they don't have a spouse, so I don't know what they want access to.

The sick interfering desires of not interfering?
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A18
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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2005, 04:55:02 PM »

So they want the state to do something, and not doing it is not interfering.
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A18
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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2005, 05:21:31 PM »
« Edited: January 05, 2005, 07:51:29 PM by Dave Leip »

We just went through the difference between the state doing something and not doing something, moron. That's a pretty important distinction, and since you quit debating that point I'll assume you're either unable to grasp it or just BSing.
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A18
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2005, 08:43:41 PM »

No, it's like saying everyone in the Soviet Union had equal rights, because everyone in the Soviet union had the same right to vote for the communists.
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A18
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2005, 12:56:47 PM »

Your distinction is completely unimportant.  In fact it is false.  The State is 'doing something' by arbitrarily enforcing a prejudicial type of 'marriage', in order to please the majority - hate-frenzied religious like yourself - and penalize the minority - nice gay people.

No, it is not doing something. That is a fact.

As for ad hominem attacks, either quit accusing people of being 'sick bigots,' or shut up.
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A18
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2005, 02:17:17 PM »

That's just the State's own definition of marriage. They aren't going around throwing people in jail who define it differently.
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A18
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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2005, 02:34:34 PM »

No, that's interferance, because they'll pull you over and punish you for driving without a license.
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A18
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2005, 03:57:18 PM »

Uh, no. Every person has an equal opportunity to get married. Homosexuals just don't want to, because they're homosexuals.
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A18
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2005, 04:10:33 PM »

Marriage has been carefully fashioned in a way to exclude them?! LMAO! You're talking about a 5 thousand year old institution!

Anyone can get married, assuming they want to.
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