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« on: January 15, 2012, 08:14:48 AM »
« edited: January 15, 2012, 08:16:21 AM by Joseph Gordon Levitt »

(With marks out of ten.)

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 6/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 8/10
Herbert Asquith - 5/10
David Lloyd George - 7/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 5/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 4/10
Neville Chamberlain - 5/10
Winston Churchill - 5/10
Clement Attlee - 8/10
Anthony Eden - 3/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 5/10
Harold Wilson - 8/10
Edward Heath - 5/10
James Callaghan - 6/10
Margaret Thatcher - 0 2/10
John Major - 5/10
Tony Blair - 5/10
Gordon Brown - 5/10
David Cameron  - 4/10



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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2012, 08:17:47 AM »


Huh?

I though Marquess of Salisbury was PM at the time.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2012, 08:25:14 AM »

That is correct. Robert Arthur Talbot Gascoyne-Cecil, 3rd Marquess of Salisbury, KG, GCVO, PC.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2012, 08:28:57 AM »

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 2/10
Arthur Balfour - 0/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 0/10
Herbert Asquith - 1/10
David Lloyd George - 5/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 0/10
Stanley Baldwin - 0/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 0/10
Neville Chamberlain - 0/10
Winston Churchill - 1/10
Clement Attlee - 7/10
Anthony Eden - 0/10
Harold Macmillan - 2/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 0/10
Harold Wilson - 8/10
Edward Heath - 1/10
James Callaghan - 3/10
Margaret Thatcher - 0/10
John Major - 1/10
Tony Blair - 3/10
Gordon Brown - 2/10
David Cameron  - 0/10

According to my mood of the moment.
(As disgusting a piece of filth as Blair otherwise is, devolution will always count in his favor.)
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2012, 10:31:43 AM »

Mr National Efficiency was never known as Herbert, but by his initials (H.H.) in public and as Henry in private; 'Herbert Asquith' is a mistaken contemporary informality. For what little that's worth. He was an utter bastard, of course, one of the worst people to hold that particular office in the 20th century.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2012, 11:32:35 AM »

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 5/10
Arthur Balfour - 4/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 6/10
Herbert Asquith - 4/10
David Lloyd George - 7/10

Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 4/10

Ramsay MacDonald - 6/10
Neville Chamberlain - 1/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10

Clement Attlee - 9.5/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 6.5/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10

Harold Wilson - 9/10
Edward Heath - 4/10
James Callaghan - 5/10
Margaret Thatcher - 2/10
John Major - 3/10

Tony Blair - 8/10
Gordon Brown - 8/10

David Cameron  - 2/10
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2012, 11:58:53 AM »
« Edited: January 15, 2012, 12:06:03 PM by J. J. »

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 10/10  (an opinion shared with Attlee, interestingly)
Arthur Balfour - 4/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 8/10
Herbert Asquith - 9/10
David Lloyd George - 3/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 2/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 7/10
Neville Chamberlain - 1/10
Winston Churchill - 9/10 (10/10 in his first premiership)
Clement Attlee - 5/10
Anthony Eden - 4/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10
Harold Wilson - 8/10
Edward Heath - 6/10
James Callaghan - 2/10
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 6/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 6/10

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2012, 12:04:36 PM »

Only doing ones I know about.

Neville Chamberlain - 0/10
Winston Churchill - 10/10
Clement Attlee - 4/10
Anthony Eden - 3/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - HuhHuh?
Harold Wilson - 2/10
Edward Heath - HuhHuh??
James Callaghan - HuhHuh?
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 6/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 1/10
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2012, 12:40:42 PM »

Mr National Efficiency was never known as Herbert, but by his initials (H.H.) in public and as Henry in private; 'Herbert Asquith' is a mistaken contemporary informality.
Or as wikipedia puts it, "in his younger days he was called Herbert within the family, but his second wife called him Henry. His biographer Stephen Koss entitled the first chapter of his biography "From Herbert to Henry", referring to upward social mobility and his abandonment of his Yorkshire Nonconformist roots with his second marriage. (this, presumably, is what makes him an utter bastard, my note.) However, in public, he was invariably referred to only as H. H. Asquith. "There have been few major national figures whose Christian names were less well known to the public," writes his biographer Roy Jenkins. His opponents gave him the nickname "Squiff" or "Squiffy", a derogatory reference to his fondness for drink."
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2012, 12:49:13 PM »

I think it's very sweet to see partisan loyalty especially towards really quite rubbish PM's

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 5/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 6/10
Herbert Asquith - 5/10
David Lloyd George - 6/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 5/10
Stanley Baldwin - 6/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 4/10
Neville Chamberlain - 6/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10
Clement Attlee - 5/10
Anthony Eden - 3/10
Harold Macmillan - 9/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 6/10
Harold Wilson - 6/10
Edward Heath - 6/10
James Callaghan - 5/10
Margaret Thatcher - 8/10
John Major - 7/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 4/10
David Cameron  - Can't rate right now, but between 7 and 8
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2012, 01:21:56 PM »

I think it's very sweet to see partisan loyalty especially towards really quite rubbish PM's

You talkin' to me?

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2012, 02:12:51 PM »

I think it's very sweet to see partisan loyalty especially towards really quite rubbish PM's

You talkin' to me?



In what world does Clem warrant a 5, while Maggs and Dave warrant 8s? Wink
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2012, 03:53:17 PM »

In what world does Clement Attlee score lower than Neville Chamberlain?
Certainly not in any modern-day, democratic, Conservative's, one would think. Tongue
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2012, 04:05:37 PM »

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 5/10
Arthur Balfour - 3/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 7/10
Herbert Asquith - 4/10
David Lloyd George - 4/10

Andrew Bonar Law - 4/10
Stanley Baldwin - 4/10

Ramsay MacDonald - 3/10
Neville Chamberlain - 2/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10

Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10

Harold Wilson - 7/10
Edward Heath - 4/10
James Callaghan - 4/10
Margaret Thatcher - 3/10
John Major - 4/10

Tony Blair - 8/10
Gordon Brown - 4/10

David Cameron  - 6/10
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2012, 04:14:53 PM »

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil: 10/10
Arthur Balfour: 4/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman: 5/10
H.H. Asquith: 1/10
David Lloyd George: 5/10
Andrew Bonar Law: 7/10
Stanley Baldwin: 5/10
Ramsay MacDonald: 3/10
Neville Chamberlain: 1/10
Winston Churchill: 9/10
Clement Attlee: 3/10
Anthony Eden: 2/10
Harold Macmillan: 7/10
Alec Douglas-Home: 4/10
Harold Wilson: 3/10
Edward Heath: 3/10
James Callaghan: 3/10
Margaret Thatcher: 9/10
John Major: 6/10
Tony Blair: 6/10
Gordon Brown: 4/10
David Cameron: 6/10
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2012, 06:11:50 PM »

His biographer Stephen Koss entitled the first chapter of his biography "From Herbert to Henry", referring to upward social mobility and his abandonment of his Yorkshire Nonconformist roots with his second marriage. (this, presumably, is what makes him an utter bastard, my note.)

That's what sealed the deal anyway. A year earlier he ordered the murder of striking miners at Featherstone.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2012, 06:22:31 PM »

Some of these are a bit arbitrary, because it's been a while since I brushed up my British political history.

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 3/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 4/10
Herbert Asquith - 4/10
David Lloyd George - 7/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 3/10
Stanley Baldwin - 3/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 7/10
Neville Chamberlain - 2/10
Winston Churchill - 9/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 5/10
Harold Macmillan - 6/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 4/10
Harold Wilson - 6/10
Edward Heath - 2/10
James Callaghan - 4/10
Margaret Thatcher - 8/10
John Major - 5/10
Tony Blair - 7/10
Gordon Brown - 5/10
David Cameron  - 7/10




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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2012, 11:05:51 PM »

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 0/10 - on the grounds I dont know who this is, or, anything they did. - this applies to a few people, IE anyone with a 0.
Arthur Balfour - 0/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 0/10
Herbert Asquith - 0/10
David Lloyd George - 9/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 0/10
Stanley Baldwin - 0/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 6/10
Neville Chamberlain - 2/10
Winston Churchill - 8/10
Clement Attlee - 8/10
Anthony Eden - 0/10
Harold Macmillan - 6/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 3/10
Harold Wilson - 7/10
Edward Heath - 5/10
James Callaghan - 7/10
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 7/10
Tony Blair - 10/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 8/10 (so far)
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2012, 11:32:19 PM »

Totals.


Cecil   41
Balfour   26
Cam-Ban   38
Asquith   29
George   46
Law   26
Baldwin   25
MacDonald   34
Chamber   19
Churchill   63
Attlee   58
Eden   22
Macmillan   58
D-Home   28
Wilson   55
Heath   32
Callaghan   34
Thatcher   56
Major   47
Blair   60
Brown   33
Cameron   45.5



TOP

George   46
Churchill   63
Attlee   58
Macmillan   58
Wilson   55
Thatcher   56
Major   47
Blair   60
Cameron   45.5
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2012, 11:38:51 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2012, 12:57:46 AM »

Attlee: Very good
Wilson: Good
Others: Varying shades of bad
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2012, 08:23:17 AM »

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - 4/10
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 5/10
Herbert Asquith - 5/10
David Lloyd George - 6/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 2/10
Stanley Baldwin - 3/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 2/10
Neville Chamberlain - 6/10
Winston Churchill - 6/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 6/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 5/10
Harold Wilson - 7/10
Edward Heath - 0/10
James Callaghan - 4/10
Margaret Thatcher - 0/10
John Major - 2/10
Tony Blair - 2/10
Gordon Brown - 4/10
David Cameron  - 0/10
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2012, 06:24:49 PM »
« Edited: May 25, 2012, 01:24:14 PM by SupersonicVenue »

An honest attempt to be non-hackish. Tongue

Robert Gascoyne-Cecil - Who?
Arthur Balfour - 5/10
Henry Campbell-Bannerman - 6/10
Herbert Asquith - 6.5/10
David Lloyd George - 8.5/10
Andrew Bonar Law - 5/10
Stanley Baldwin - 7/10
Ramsay MacDonald - 3/10
Neville Chamberlain - 6/10
Winston Churchill - 9.5/10
Clement Attlee - 9/10
Anthony Eden - 2/10
Harold Macmillan - 8/10
Alec Douglas-Home - 5/10
Harold Wilson - 7.5/10
Edward Heath - 3/10
James Callaghan - 3/10
Margaret Thatcher - 9/10
John Major - 6.5/10
Tony Blair - 8/10
Gordon Brown - 3/10
David Cameron  - 7/10
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2012, 01:58:58 PM »

Attlee: 9/10
Everyone else: not as good as Attlee.
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2012, 02:02:12 PM »

Attlee: 9/10
Everyone else: not as good as Attlee.

This, pretty much.
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