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« on: January 23, 2012, 02:42:41 PM »

The government has been defeated in the Lords in a vote on its plans for a £26,000-a-year household benefit cap.

Peers backed a bishop's amendment by 252 to 237 that child benefit should not be included in the cap.

Critics argued that imposing the same cap on all families, regardless of size, would penalise children.

Ministers say including child benefit would make the cap pointless by effectively raising it to £50,000 and they will seek to overturn the defeat.

Earlier the government defeated another amendment proposed by Labour to exempt people considered at risk of homelessness from the cap.

The annual cap would come into force for working age families in England, Scotland and Wales from 2013.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16675314
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 02:53:38 PM »

Does the coalition even have anything close to a majority in the Lords? Can't imagine it does.

I make no judgments on the substance of the bill or bishop's amendment other than it's "cute" but not necessarily in an endearing way.
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 03:20:37 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 03:46:35 PM »

Wait, a Lord Spiritual actually did something?!
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 04:50:47 PM »

Isn't the government now planning on creating a ton of peers to make sure this doesn't happen again though?
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 07:07:03 PM »

Wait, a Lord Spiritual actually did something?!

I like to think that they were all sitting down to afternoon tea in the gardens of their respective Bishops Palaces when all of them heard (no doubt on Radio Four) that the government intended to include child benefit in the cap. And that then, and all at once, they spat out a mouthful of tea in horror. There would probably also have been the audible clinking of fine bone china as the cups were put down, and faster than normal, in their respective saucers. Heads would have been shaken, and perhaps they would also have been put off their Madeira Cake, at least for that particular moment. Something, the all thought to themselves, simply must be done.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 12:14:18 AM »

Wait, a Lord Spiritual actually did something?!

I like to think that they were all sitting down to afternoon tea in the gardens of their respective Bishops Palaces when all of them heard (no doubt on Radio Four) that the government intended to include child benefit in the cap. And that then, and all at once, they spat out a mouthful of tea in horror. There would probably also have been the audible clinking of fine bone china as the cups were put down, and faster than normal, in their respective saucers. Heads would have been shaken, and perhaps they would also have been put off their Madeira Cake, at least for that particular moment. Something, the all thought to themselves, simply must be done.

Man, I belong to a really great religion.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 02:42:44 AM »

You still have the house of lords?
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 07:51:56 AM »


Unfortunately so. We're pretty backwards like that.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 08:16:22 AM »


Hilarious, isn't it?
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 08:20:31 AM »

Some want to reform the HoL based on the Canadian Senate, if you can believe that.
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 08:35:50 AM »


When they swear in they have to wear ermine.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 08:47:53 AM »

I wonder what the stoats think of that.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 03:30:53 PM »

Wait, a Lord Spiritual actually did something?!

I like to think that they were all sitting down to afternoon tea in the gardens of their respective Bishops Palaces when all of them heard (no doubt on Radio Four) that the government intended to include child benefit in the cap. And that then, and all at once, they spat out a mouthful of tea in horror. There would probably also have been the audible clinking of fine bone china as the cups were put down, and faster than normal, in their respective saucers. Heads would have been shaken, and perhaps they would also have been put off their Madeira Cake, at least for that particular moment. Something, the all thought to themselves, simply must be done.

Should I feel bad that I don't know what Madeira Cake is?  (I know where the island of Madeira is, but I didn't know that they were famous for pastries)

This is a truly delightful post, Al.
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2012, 07:01:13 PM »

It's.... quaint.
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« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2012, 08:10:17 PM »

The irony of the Tories asking the unelected second chamber to respect public opinion and accept the proposals. Not like maintenance of the Lords has been key Tory policy since William came and conquered or anything and they've fought tooth and nail against changing the second chamber. Roll Eyes Typical.
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