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wtflol?

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The late (and much missed) David Taylor used to vote in both lobbies when the government proposed something he disagreed with; meant that he could register a protest and also not really vote with the other lot.

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The late (and much missed) David Taylor used to vote in both lobbies when the government proposed something he disagreed with; meant that he could register a protest and also not really vote with the other lot.

How could he do that if the doors get locked before counting?

Apparently he was quick.

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Chris 'The Fringe' Vroom was always going to be charged for this, so I don't quite get why he waited before resigning.

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BTW, what's with the Falkland enthusiasm in the UK media? Any specific reason the temperature over those barren cliffs a hemisphere away is rising again? (Well, outside of the presence of a prince of the realm.)

Oil in the general area, so rhetoric from Argentina is stronger than it has been for ages, and so on.

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That would have been quite the PR disaster, so it's not a surprise.

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What is the NHS poll? Is NHS a one-issue party, or is it just left of labour?

There is no such party, it's just Ashcroft trolling.

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Francis Maude is in deep sh!t.

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Because most people don't care about Miliband.

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Police Commissioner, yeah. I will set up a by-election thread at some point, but it can wait for ages, I think.

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The blunt reality wrt Wales is that 'competition' (however defined) in education is not exactly practical. There's a reason why Wales was one of the most important strongholds of the movement to end selective education.

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The blunt reality wrt Wales is that 'competition' (however defined) in education is not exactly practical. There's a reason why Wales was one of the most important strongholds of the movement to end selective education.

Low population density in rural Wales? Or something else?

That's half of it, yeah. The other half is that most of the bits of Wales that don't have a very low population density are basically monolithically working class (and, for the most part, still not entirely urban). There isn't the demographic base to make certain approaches to education viable.

edit: 'most of' being rather important. Most of. Most of. Most of.

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If I had my way, I'd reform the Lords... back to 1910.

Your act is now actively embarrassing. Grow up.

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Sarcasm.

Haha. Your general affectations mean that you've given up any right to claim that that's the case in this case. Sorry.

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Thanks for proving my point.

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If he wants it, it's his though. Which has always been so. Easier now that ShadCab is not elected.

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Hope we'll see the back of Liam Byrne though, even with Birmingham voting no to a mayor.

Well if even you think he should go...

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Unlikely because they are actually Tories, rather than entryists. Just extreme ones.

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Residualisation.

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How is it outrageous? Given the things Plaid say about Unite officials they shouldn't be surprised if the brothers respond to overtures with raised fingers. Can't have things both ways.

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Messy situation there. Oh dear.

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Back to 64 at least, I'd guess. Maybe 59 as well? I think everything before then was wiped or just never recorded.

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'Cringey' is really quite, quite, quite the understatement.

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etc

Which means...

lol

By which I mean something different to what the Honourable Member for Witney means.

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Rosindell is, and always has been, a country supper.

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Anyways, Peter Archer (Lord Archer of Sandwell from 1992, a Black Country MP from 1966 until then) died recently. Very much one of the good guys:

Grauniad obit
Torygraph obit
Amnesty International obit

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If Progress had a 'grip' on the Party then David Miliband would be leader. Parliamentary selections are also a red herring: that process is now more 'democratic' (as the term is usually understood) then it ever has been (fixing still happens all the time, because that's politics. And it doesn't all go one way). A relatively high percentage of new MPs will tend to have some link or other to Progress because Progress attracts careerists; very much a chicken/egg situation. And, obviously, careerists present better at selection meetings than other people (for the most part). Of course the big issue is the rather stupid decision of its funder (someone by the name of Sainsbury) to stop his donations to the Party when his favoured candidate lost a leadership election, but to continue to fund Progress. That looks bad.

Anyways, the most that can happen would be Progress declared a banned organisation (or whatever term is currently used) for Party members to also be members of. Though, tbf, this whole thing reeks of a two bald men and a comb situation.