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« Reply #125 on: January 29, 2012, 11:33:29 pm »

Not at all. Engorge yourself in festivity! And get the party's house in order! Cheesy
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« Reply #126 on: January 30, 2012, 08:10:14 am »

It seems as if I'm going to join the CPA
(though the French word for "communitarian" is ugly Tongue).
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« Reply #127 on: January 30, 2012, 10:55:50 am »

It seems as if I'm going to join the CPA
(though the French word for "communitarian" is ugly Tongue).

Welcome! Thankfully we don't speak French in Atlasia. We speak 'tlasian.

I think this makes us the largest- Hurray!

Minor "note": The Franklin Institute visit is now on Friday. I forgot that the Super Bowl was on Sunday! We now have a brunch. Families are welcome!
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« Reply #128 on: January 30, 2012, 10:56:50 am »

This is merely meant as a suggestion, but in case Yankee will not run for another term as Senator of the South, would any of our Southerners like to run for that seat? Clarence, for example? I mean, having one Senator (TJ) is nice, but if a realistic opportunity to gain more seats arises, we should at least give it a try.
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« Reply #129 on: January 30, 2012, 10:34:50 pm »

Can't wait till Wednesday! Smiley
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« Reply #130 on: January 31, 2012, 08:41:29 pm »

May I join as a non-elected member? I'll run for the next opening that occurs in the IDS.
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« Reply #131 on: January 31, 2012, 08:45:57 pm »

May I join as a non-elected member? I'll run for the next opening that occurs in the IDS.

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« Reply #132 on: January 31, 2012, 08:46:03 pm »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!
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« Reply #133 on: January 31, 2012, 09:27:21 pm »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!

Thanks, man. Just tel me how to vote initially and I'll take it from there.

This will be fun. I agree with most of SimFan's proposed platform, and I love the name. This is going to be a great movement.
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« Reply #134 on: January 31, 2012, 09:29:47 pm »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!

Thanks, man. Just tel me how to vote initially and I'll take it from there.

This will be fun. I agree with most of SimFan's proposed platform, and I love the name. This is going to be a great movement.

As in what to vote for or how?

How? You'll be presented with ballots during the convention, on which you will vote. You can make nominations.

For what? That's up to you. Smiley
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I just hope Trump doesn't turn into some kind of Berlusconi-esque Teflon man.
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« Reply #135 on: January 31, 2012, 09:35:57 pm »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!

Thanks, man. Just tel me how to vote initially and I'll take it from there.

This will be fun. I agree with most of SimFan's proposed platform, and I love the name. This is going to be a great movement.

As in what to vote for or how?

How? You'll be presented with ballots during the convention, on which you will vote. You can make nominations.

For what? That's up to you. Smiley

I meant whom to vote for, as in the presidential elections.

Thanks man, once again. Smiley
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« Reply #136 on: January 31, 2012, 09:37:02 pm »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!

Thanks, man. Just tel me how to vote initially and I'll take it from there.

This will be fun. I agree with most of SimFan's proposed platform, and I love the name. This is going to be a great movement.

As in what to vote for or how?

How? You'll be presented with ballots during the convention, on which you will vote. You can make nominations.

For what? That's up to you. Smiley

I meant whom to vote for, as in the presidential elections.

Thanks man, once again. Smiley

We should vote for the only candidate, who happens to be our candidate- ZuWo!
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I just hope Trump doesn't turn into some kind of Berlusconi-esque Teflon man.
Vote UKIP!
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« Reply #137 on: January 31, 2012, 09:41:11 pm »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!

Thanks, man. Just tel me how to vote initially and I'll take it from there.

This will be fun. I agree with most of SimFan's proposed platform, and I love the name. This is going to be a great movement.

As in what to vote for or how?

How? You'll be presented with ballots during the convention, on which you will vote. You can make nominations.

For what? That's up to you. Smiley

I meant whom to vote for, as in the presidential elections.

Thanks man, once again. Smiley

We should vote for the only candidate, who happens to be our candidate- ZuWo!

I'm Zany for ZuWo!
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« Reply #138 on: January 31, 2012, 10:33:04 pm »

I'm going to suggest at the convention, beginning tomorrow, that we take a moderated approach to our platform, as well as focus more on game reform. Just throwing it out there, so don't be shocked. Wink
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« Reply #139 on: January 31, 2012, 10:43:53 pm »

I'm going to suggest at the convention, beginning tomorrow, that we take a moderated approach to our platform, as well as focus more on game reform. Just throwing it out there, so don't be shocked. Wink

I disagree. A bland message of game reform would mot be worthy of our centre-right ideals.

What suggest is to put our main focus on game reform while also reaffirming our support for tradition.
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« Reply #140 on: January 31, 2012, 10:48:53 pm »

You know that we can do both, right guys?
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« Reply #141 on: January 31, 2012, 11:04:20 pm »

Before the convention, here's some points I believe that need to be in the final platform.
  • We believe that although the rights of the indivigual are sacrosanct, we believe that the family is the fundamental social unit on which the community is based.
  • Life is perhaps the most important civil right any human possesses. Thus, we seek to guarantee legal rights to the indivigual beginning from conception.
  • Our current executive branch is outdated, and in desperate need for reform. We support the direct, seperate election of the vice president and other cabinet members in to make sure the best and brightest, rather than pawns of the president, serve in such capacities.
  • We believe firmly in the Atlasian concept of federalism. The recognition of rights of the several regions to govern in their own affairs is necessary for the maintenance of liberty for the citizens, as well as a check on the power of the federal government.
  • We believe that equality of opportunity trumps equality of outcome. The later tends to lead to tyranny, and the loss of indivigual liberties.

Okay, SimFan. We won't get too excited.


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« Reply #142 on: January 31, 2012, 11:05:39 pm »

I think we should clarify, firstly, that abortion should be an issue left more to the regions, and will not be actively pursued at the federal level.

Direct elections of cabinet members isn't a good idea, IMO.
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« Reply #143 on: January 31, 2012, 11:07:21 pm »

MasterSanders, I agree with all but the third point- the cabinet should be able to trusted and able to consult the President. I also agree that abortions should be left to the regions, although I would like to see some kind of condemnation, even if (and preferably) a mild one.
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« Reply #144 on: January 31, 2012, 11:17:09 pm »

MasterSanders, I agree with all but the third point- the cabinet should be able to trusted and able to consult the President. I also agree that abortions should be left to the regions, although I would like to see some kind of condemnation, even if (and preferably) a mild one.

I'm good with that.
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« Reply #145 on: January 31, 2012, 11:17:29 pm »

Marvelous!
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« Reply #146 on: February 01, 2012, 05:20:26 am »

MasterSanders, I agree with all but the third point- the cabinet should be able to trusted and able to consult the President. I also agree that abortions should be left to the regions, although I would like to see some kind of condemnation, even if (and preferably) a mild one.

Definitely, though I disagree with the wording "a mild one". A large wing of this party has emerged from the Right to Life Caucus, so the protection of the unborn must be one of our main goals, and the condemnation of abortion an unambiguous case.
I generally urge caution about adopting "moderate stances" in our platform. If we become vague in an attempt to reach out to as many voters as possible, we actually contravene the basic idea behind the mutual dissolution of the RPP and the JCP by laying the foundation for becoming the next big-tent party on the right.
This should be a socially and economically conservative party. We believe in our conservative values, so why should we try to hide or mitigate them?
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« Reply #147 on: February 01, 2012, 06:11:26 am »

MasterSanders, I agree with all but the third point- the cabinet should be able to trusted and able to consult the President. I also agree that abortions should be left to the regions, although I would like to see some kind of condemnation, even if (and preferably) a mild one.

Definitely, though I disagree with the wording "a mild one". A large wing of this party has emerged from the Right to Life Caucus, so the protection of the unborn must be one of our main goals, and the condemnation of abortion an unambiguous case.
I generally urge caution about adopting "moderate stances" in our platform. If we become vague in an attempt to reach out to as many voters as possible, we actually contravene the basic idea behind the mutual dissolution of the RPP and the JCP by laying the foundation for becoming the next big-tent party on the right.
This should be a socially and economically conservative party. We believe in our conservative values, so why should we try to hide or mitigate them?

Yes... this is very concerning Simfan. Santorum quoted Lincoln a while back and said "no state has the right to commit moral wrongs." For those of us who are firmly pro-life this stance would be a dealbreaker
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« Reply #148 on: February 01, 2012, 12:36:24 pm »

I think if we make abortion, especially at the federal level, a top issue of this party, unfortunately, we'll be setting ourselves up for political suicide.

That may not be right, but that's how it is.
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« Reply #149 on: February 01, 2012, 12:50:34 pm »

I get politics...I am just concerned with wanting to go as mild as can be

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