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Simfan34
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« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2012, 01:05:44 AM »

Yes. Do you have endorsements in mind?
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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2012, 09:46:27 AM »

Simfan for Senate?.... heh. In any case, I'm not sure that we should endorse people without their implicit approval... but I think that's a decent list.
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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2012, 10:02:07 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2012, 10:44:31 AM by Simfan34 »

Exactly what I was thinking. I hope we're not limited to the South and Mideast- we seem to heading down that path.

Oh, and welcome MQuinn!
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2012, 10:56:54 AM »

To reduce confusion I am going to refer to the party as the "Whig-Communitarian Party" pending a final decision. 
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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2012, 01:41:35 PM »

Duly noted. Might you join us? Smiley
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« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2012, 07:04:37 PM »


Are you joining us! Hurray for Inks! Welcome!
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« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2012, 08:54:40 PM »

Let's extend a warm welcome to former President Tmthforu94!
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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2012, 09:01:40 PM »

I hope he joins! And a warmest welcome to realisticidealist, our first Pacific member! We'll be the largest in no time!

Cathcon: I did make one up, any comments?
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« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2012, 09:29:51 PM »

Marvelous! Welcome aboard, and we are now the largest party in Atlasia! (tied for it, at least)
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« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2012, 09:44:45 PM »

I feel like they're synonymous- we vote regularly, as if it was another term.
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« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2012, 10:01:06 PM »

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Chairman-wise, I sympathize with both viewpoints, but I do think it's important to have a degree of constancy.

I hope he joins! And a warmest welcome to realisticidealist, our first Pacific member! We'll be the largest in no time!

Cathcon: I did make one up, any comments?

Thank you. It looks quite nice.

Thanks!
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« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2012, 10:08:56 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2012, 11:09:04 AM by Simfan34 »


The Communitarian Party's first Convention shall take place in Philadelphia, PA from Wednesday, February 1 to Tuesday, February 7 at the Pennsylvania Convention Center. The Schedule is as follows:

Wednesday, February 1
12pm-6pm: Early registration
7pm: Cocktail reception at Philadelphia Marriott

Thursday, February 2
10am-4pm: Registration
2pm: Visit and speeches at University of Pennsylvania School of Engineering
6pm: Opening Address
8-10pm: Plenary session

Friday, February 3

2pm: Speeches
3pm-6pm: Plenary session
8pm: Dinner reception at  at the Franklin Institute

Saturday, February 4

10am-2pm: Plenary session
4pm-6pm: Plenary session
8pm: Philadelphia Symphony performance of Rimsky-Korsakov's Sheherazade 

Sunday, February 5

10am: Brunch at National Constitution Center. 

Monday, February 6

10-1pm: Plenary session
2pm: Luncheon at Philadelphia Museum of Art
5pm-7pm: Plenary session

Tuesday, February 7

12-4pm: Plenary session
6pm: Closing banquet

Hope to see you all there!

In terms of actual voting, the schedule shall be this:

Thursday, February 2: Members will be presented with a ballot on the party symbols (name, color,  etc) Voting will last for four days

Saturday, February 4: Midnight is deadline for endorsement nominations. Endorsement voting will begin and will last until end of convention

Sunday, February 4: Midnight is deadline for leadership nominations. Leadership voting will begin and will last until end of convention

Monday, February 6: All other issues will be voted upon, which will last until the end of convention.

Tuesday, February 7: End of convention, formally at midnight.

EDIT: I am cancelling the visit to the PMA on Sunday. It will be joined with the luncheon on Monday. Sunday morning and afternoon will be free. There will be a buffet reception at the Franklin Institute on Sunday in its place.
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« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2012, 11:33:29 PM »

Not at all. Engorge yourself in festivity! And get the party's house in order! Cheesy
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2012, 10:55:50 AM »
« Edited: January 30, 2012, 11:05:02 AM by Simfan34 »

It seems as if I'm going to join the CPA
(though the French word for "communitarian" is ugly Tongue).

Welcome! Thankfully we don't speak French in Atlasia. We speak 'tlasian.

I think this makes us the largest- Hurray!

Minor "note": The Franklin Institute visit is now on Friday. I forgot that the Super Bowl was on Sunday! We now have a brunch. Families are welcome!
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« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2012, 08:46:03 PM »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!
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« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2012, 09:29:47 PM »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!

Thanks, man. Just tel me how to vote initially and I'll take it from there.

This will be fun. I agree with most of SimFan's proposed platform, and I love the name. This is going to be a great movement.

As in what to vote for or how?

How? You'll be presented with ballots during the convention, on which you will vote. You can make nominations.

For what? That's up to you. Smiley
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« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2012, 09:37:02 PM »

I've seen you've done that, so welcome to the club of the cool community of Atlasians!

Thanks, man. Just tel me how to vote initially and I'll take it from there.

This will be fun. I agree with most of SimFan's proposed platform, and I love the name. This is going to be a great movement.

As in what to vote for or how?

How? You'll be presented with ballots during the convention, on which you will vote. You can make nominations.

For what? That's up to you. Smiley

I meant whom to vote for, as in the presidential elections.

Thanks man, once again. Smiley

We should vote for the only candidate, who happens to be our candidate- ZuWo!
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« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2012, 10:48:53 PM »

You know that we can do both, right guys?
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« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2012, 11:07:21 PM »
« Edited: January 31, 2012, 11:11:07 PM by Simfan34 »

MasterSanders, I agree with all but the third point- the cabinet should be able to trusted and able to consult the President. I also agree that abortions should be left to the regions, although I would like to see some kind of condemnation, even if (and preferably) a mild one.
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« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2012, 11:17:29 PM »

Marvelous!
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« Reply #45 on: February 01, 2012, 05:52:46 PM »
« Edited: February 01, 2012, 05:55:12 PM by Simfan34 »

Agreed. MasterSanders hits it out of the ball park. I founded this party, if this helps anyone, intending it to be a center right party that really emphasized the communitarian aspect. I think we do need a broad platform, as I think a fairly wide ranging base is going to be necessary for survival. At this juncture the failure of this party would mean the failure of the Atlasian Right in the short term.

Talk about social issues, talk about morality- I would not support a platform without those. But let's focus upon strengthening communities and social capital, as we are the Whig-Communitarian Party, and benefits of doing so.

While I think concerns about us being a "far right" party are unfounded- it's virtually nonexistent here- I was looking to form a decidedly non-libertarian right-wing party.

But we can stick to our guns and be broad-based. We have to. We just have to do it right.

As for caucuses, I'd like to see a level of central control that inhibits the kind of independence that allowed them to break away from the JCP and RPP- at least in the short term while we sort things out. We shouldn't be running in different directions just quite yet. Smiley
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E: 0.90, S: 4.17

« Reply #46 on: February 01, 2012, 09:36:10 PM »

Agreed. MasterSanders hits it out of the ball park. I founded this party, if this helps anyone, intending it to be a center right party that really emphasized the communitarian aspect. I think we do need a broad platform, as I think a fairly wide ranging base is going to be necessary for survival. At this juncture the failure of this party would mean the failure of the Atlasian Right in the short term.

Talk about social issues, talk about morality- I would not support a platform without those. But let's focus upon strengthening communities and social capital, as we are the Whig-Communitarian Party, and benefits of doing so.

While I think concerns about us being a "far right" party are unfounded- it's virtually nonexistent here- I was looking to form a decidedly non-libertarian right-wing party.

But we can stick to our guns and be broad-based. We have to. We just have to do it right.

As for caucuses, I'd like to see a level of central control that inhibits the kind of independence that allowed them to break away from the JCP and RPP- at least in the short term while we sort things out. We shouldn't be running in different directions just quite yet. Smiley

It's hilarious when you talk about forming a broad ranged coalition and at the same time yell out to a constituency that you don't want our votes.

Well you're welcome Simfan.  This party will never ever get my vote.

I have- literally- been saying this since the first post. The economically conservative and  socially libertarian right is being represented by the IFP and the Moderate Party. This party was founded on representing another group. Now I think that group covers a large body of Atlasians. And I think that we should appeal to that body. But I don't think this party should contort itself into something it's not.
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« Reply #47 on: February 01, 2012, 09:48:03 PM »
« Edited: February 01, 2012, 09:50:36 PM by Simfan34 »

Our party needs to oppose the anti-conscription bill in the Senate... it weakens our national defense capability considerably

Why is the idea of a volunteer military a bad one? You would gain a stronger and more content military in regards of morale. What we need is stronger personal morality instilled in our fighting men and women.

I would support the illegalization of conscription, with the exception of cases of war. The defense of the nation in times of war is a priority- if morale suffered, it would be, in my mind, a suitable sacrifice for our security.
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« Reply #48 on: February 01, 2012, 10:08:35 PM »

The one on morality in our fighting men and women? If we are a conservative party, wouldn't we want to teach personal morality to our fighting men and women? Also, I know what I'm about to say will get me blasted like crazy but I must say it..... Banning gays from military service.

Why would we want to do that?
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« Reply #49 on: February 01, 2012, 10:26:11 PM »

I think Clarence is right- let's push back as hard as we can, even if we don't get a full defeat, we can force a compromise.
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