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« Reply #300 on: May 19, 2012, 03:36:29 pm »


If I have to face Clarence in a primary, I will leave the party until the election is over. Not only am I positive that he would defeat me, but I don't want to cause a rift in the party. I want he and I to both be involved in this race, as I think we are both excellent candidates.
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« Reply #301 on: May 19, 2012, 03:50:52 pm »

Either of you would make an excellent president for Atlasia.

I also agree with Simfan/politicus re: their definition of social equity. I wonder if we should clarify it in that list of points. Just to clear up the ambiguity. Because the wording does make it sound a little socialistic, and I'd like to hope that's not what we're going for. Tongue
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« Reply #302 on: May 19, 2012, 04:32:42 pm »

You'd better be outraged at the path your Liberal Party is taking because if you guys continue to recruit libertarians, centrists and leftists at the same time it will become less and less clear what your party stands for. Wink

I believe it would result in a party best described as "moderate liberalitarian".

Perfect for someone like you! Wink
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« Reply #303 on: May 19, 2012, 04:35:38 pm »

You'd better be outraged at the path your Liberal Party is taking because if you guys continue to recruit libertarians, centrists and leftists at the same time it will become less and less clear what your party stands for. Wink

I believe it would result in a party best described as "moderate liberalitarian".

Perfect for someone like you! Wink

'Twould, were I not a Southerner.
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« Reply #304 on: May 22, 2012, 04:07:28 pm »

OFFICIAL STATEMENT

I'm leaving soon for a three month summer vacation, and I will have a very rare access to Internets.
ZuWo will be acting chairman until my return.

Sincerely,

Whig Party Chairman, IDS Judicial Overlord Pingvin
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« Reply #305 on: May 22, 2012, 04:15:17 pm »

Have a great vacation Pingvin- thank you for your service as Chairman
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« Reply #306 on: May 22, 2012, 04:45:27 pm »

Three months? If the period was that long I would prefer if you'd resign for the time being. That's a period almost as long as most terms. We'd welcome you back upon your return.

Since 20RP12 joined after he announced his candidacy, I would prefer that we simply not endorse a candidate, but I'd like to see both Clarence and he urge their supporters to make the other their second choices.
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« Reply #307 on: May 22, 2012, 04:48:47 pm »

Simfan34- I agree completely that 20RP12 and I ought to encourage our supporters to 2nd prefernece each other...I sure will be second preferencing 20RP12. With the left agreeing to high preference each other- this is even more crucial
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« Reply #308 on: May 22, 2012, 05:07:39 pm »

Simfan34- I agree completely that 20RP12 and I ought to encourage our supporters to 2nd prefernece each other...I sure will be second preferencing 20RP12. With the left agreeing to high preference each other- this is even more crucial

I agree. I've decided you will be receiving my second preference and I will encourage my supporters to do the same.
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« Reply #309 on: May 22, 2012, 05:29:24 pm »

Since 20RP12 joined after he announced his candidacy, I would prefer that we simply not endorse a candidate, but I'd like to see both Clarence and he urge their supporters to make the other their second choices.

Why not just endorse both of them? Sort of like "the Whig Party officially endorses 20RP12 and Clarence for the Presidency, and encourages its members to weigh the merits of each when determining which shall get their first preference and which shall get their second"
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« Reply #310 on: May 22, 2012, 05:33:53 pm »

Since 20RP12 joined after he announced his candidacy, I would prefer that we simply not endorse a candidate, but I'd like to see both Clarence and he urge their supporters to make the other their second choices.

Why not just endorse both of them? Sort of like "the Whig Party officially endorses 20RP12 and Clarence for the Presidency, and encourages its members to weigh the merits of each when determining which shall get their first preference and which shall get their second"

This isn't a terrible idea(?)
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« Reply #311 on: May 22, 2012, 05:48:19 pm »

Simfan34- I agree completely that 20RP12 and I ought to encourage our supporters to 2nd prefernece each other...I sure will be second preferencing 20RP12. With the left agreeing to high preference each other- this is even more crucial

I agree. I've decided you will be receiving my second preference and I will encourage my supporters to do the same.
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« Reply #312 on: May 22, 2012, 05:51:23 pm »

Simfan34- I agree completely that 20RP12 and I ought to encourage our supporters to 2nd prefernece each other...I sure will be second preferencing 20RP12. With the left agreeing to high preference each other- this is even more crucial

I agree. I've decided you will be receiving my second preference and I will encourage my supporters to do the same.

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« Reply #313 on: May 22, 2012, 09:32:18 pm »
« Edited: May 22, 2012, 09:34:41 pm by Severe Simfan34 »

Ehhh I'm thinking more so of having regulating to the point where you have externalities and private cost at the same level and in equilibrium with the market demand
Thats pretty much my position.
Since we are some European Christian Democrats and US Moderates in the party, its platform is to the left of US Conservatives in some areas.

That too sums it up nicely for me.

Since 20RP12 joined after he announced his candidacy, I would prefer that we simply not endorse a candidate, but I'd like to see both Clarence and he urge their supporters to make the other their second choices.

Why not just endorse both of them? Sort of like "the Whig Party officially endorses 20RP12 and Clarence for the Presidency, and encourages its members to weigh the merits of each when determining which shall get their first preference and which shall get their second"

This isn't a terrible idea(?)

Yes that sounds like it could work.

Anyway, I'll be running for Party Chair whenever we vote for it next.
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« Reply #314 on: May 22, 2012, 10:23:22 pm »

I motion to hold a vote of no confidence in the leadership of Chairman Pingvin in accordance with our party's bylaws:

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OFFICIAL STATEMENT

I'm leaving soon for a three month summer vacation, and I will have a very rare access to Internets.
ZuWo will be acting chairman until my return.

Sincerely,

Whig Party Chairman, IDS Judicial Overlord Pingvin



While I have complete confidence in ZuWo's leadership abilities, I believe an election should rightfully be held for both positions of leadership rather than a de-facto vacancy.

Have a good vacation Mr. Chairman!
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« Reply #315 on: May 22, 2012, 11:22:36 pm »

I second this motion.
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« Reply #316 on: May 22, 2012, 11:45:24 pm »

I'd like to offer Pingvin the chance to step down...no confidence implies lack of faith in his abilities which isn't the case- Pingvin I urge you to step down considering your upcoming absence
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« Reply #317 on: May 23, 2012, 12:11:17 am »

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I hereby resign as Chairman of Whig Party.


Sincerely,

IDS Judicial Overlord Pingvin
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« Reply #318 on: May 23, 2012, 12:20:57 am »

In that case, the office of Chairman is vacant and ZuWo becomes the Chairman:

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Unfortunately there is a problem with our bylaws: we have no provision for a vacancy in the office of Vice-Chairman. Since the Vice-Chairman can only be elected at the convention in April, August, or December, or in the event of a vacancy, maybe we should hold a vote of No Confidence in Vice-Chairman Vacancy? Tongue
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« Reply #319 on: May 23, 2012, 12:23:23 am »

Yikes- sorry folks didn't meant to cause a crisis!
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« Reply #320 on: May 23, 2012, 01:13:05 am »

I hope that Pingvin's resignation is only temporary, but for the time being I accept the office of chairman according to our bylaws. There is an important election ahead of us, and we must be ready to face this challenge.

Should we hold a vote of No Confidence in the Vice-Chairman Vacancy now and then elect a new Vice Chair in order to solve the problem TJ has mentioned, or could we simply leave the office of Vice Chair vacant until August?
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« Reply #321 on: May 23, 2012, 01:55:59 am »

For Simfan to be able to run for it- I propose a vote of no confidence for "Vice Chairman Vacancy"
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« Reply #322 on: May 23, 2012, 11:05:35 am »
« Edited: May 23, 2012, 11:12:57 am by Simfan34 »

I second that motion. I would like to hold a special election for the current shake-up, but we actually never held the April convention, so we can open it and vote there.

I have already booked rooms at the Lancaster Marriott at Penn Square. I recommend we host the actual events at the Lancaster County Convention Center. I am more than willing to draw up a program.
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« Reply #323 on: May 23, 2012, 11:14:12 am »

When we reach the appropriate moment, I have some suggestions for amending the Bylaws so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
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« Reply #324 on: May 23, 2012, 11:20:46 am »

Simfan, do you expect us to appear in ties and appropriate suits to that convention? If yes, can you send us your detailed instructions as to what we should and should not wear at least a few days in advance? Thanks!

For everyone's information, here's our bylaws:

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