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« on: January 27, 2012, 10:46:26 am »

I am interested in a Communitarian Party even though I may be too far right economically to fit that description in the most superficial political sense (though I maintain many of my underlying instincts have been communitarian in nature since before I knew what communitarian was). If the RPP dissolution goes through, I will give this party serious consideration.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 07:51:08 pm »

Gay Marriage has been legal in Atlasia for some time now, so trying to outlaw it would be a bit of a political reach IMO (and that's quite an understatement). To be honest, I think you ought to delete that entire line from the platform since it doesn't actually say anything coherent in the first place.

In the same light, I don't see why you would raise the issue of the death penalty because it has also been illegal in Atlasia for a long time. There is no political will to legalize it, either. Taking stands on political non-issues isn't a great way to attract people to a party; it only pushes away those who marginally agree.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 03:18:41 pm »


I see. But do you agree that it is difficult nowadays to enter a nation with "humanitarian" intent and leave without at least contributing to some kind of nation-building? Is there any morality in enter a country, helping them topple an oppressive regime, for instance, and then leaving?

Humanitarian aid does not generally refer to entering a nation and helping topple an oppressive regime. It usually is more related to things like sending malayria nets to poor African villages that can't afford them or something like Haiti's earthquake relief. Sometimes we fund military groups or UN peacekeeping missions. I think these things often result in us ending up in fewer wars if done correctly.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2012, 10:00:47 pm »

I agree with Tmthforu on this. Having elections for party chair often would lead to some sort of musical chairs effect and get in the way if we have a good chairman. Having an approval vote makes more sense for this position in my opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 08:45:57 pm »

May I join as a non-elected member? I'll run for the next opening that occurs in the IDS.

Welcome!
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 01:13:17 pm »

I think we should advocate at the federal level for abortion to be a regional issue and at the regional level to ban/heavily restrict abortion. While we don't need to turn this into a one-issue party, I don't think we have much to gain by completely shying away from taking a stand. I don't think it's much of a secret that most of this party's membership is pro-life.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2012, 09:47:59 am »


Chair:

[X] Pingvin
[  ] Write-in: ____________________

Vice Chair:

[X] ZuWo
[  ] Write-in: ____________________

Bylaws*:

[X] Yes
[  ] No
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2012, 04:37:28 pm »

I think it might be problematic, if it implicitly rules out cutting the military to a smaller level. If we support small government the military should be cut as well.
At least we should agree on a defence policy first.
Maybe our respect could be directly connected to our veterans policy?

If Atlasia is supposed to be a virtual US this might be problematic but how about:
"We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government".

Where does the Whigs stand on climate change and alternative energy? I hope we are relatively progressive on this issue (otherwise I am in the wrong party Smiley ).

First of all, welcome to Atlasia and welcome to the Whig Party.

As for the religion point, I like what you have written--hopefully it is broad and vague enough not to turn off any non-Christians or non-Jews from joining or voting for Whig Party members.

We haven't discussed climate change or alternative energy much here but I would suspect the Whig Party would support energy research (our last point is to encourage and promote science) but likely oppose tough carbon enforcement measures (like a carbon tax) as something of a government intrusion. One of the main ideological issues here is that the Whig Party was started as a Communitarian right party that has sort of morphed into a general US style conservative party with some more libertarian aspects as well. The original ideology is probably more progressive on environmental issues but this may be an issue with some tension inside the party.
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2012, 10:09:02 am »

1. "We recognize the Judeo-Christian tradition as the primary moral foundation of our society and the positive role of religion should be acknowledged and respected by the government."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

2. "God gave us the earth in trust and we are merely the caretakers of it and should pass it on to future generations in at least the condition we received it."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

3. "The Whig Party will only use military intervention abroad if the national security of Atlasia or our allies is threatened."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

4. "The Whig Party supports alternative energy research and supports enviromental protection."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

5. "That the military and its traditions are a fundamental aspect of our heritage and national identity."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay

6. "That multilateralism and collective security - a community of nations - is the best way to advance Atlasia's interests abroad."

[X] Aye
[ ] Nay
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 10:23:22 pm »

I motion to hold a vote of no confidence in the leadership of Chairman Pingvin in accordance with our party's bylaws:

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4.   A member of the party may call a vote of no confidence in the leadership of either the chairman or vice chairman. If the vote receives a majority, an election is held to fill the executive office in question.

OFFICIAL STATEMENT

I'm leaving soon for a three month summer vacation, and I will have a very rare access to Internets.
ZuWo will be acting chairman until my return.

Sincerely,

Whig Party Chairman, IDS Judicial Overlord Pingvin



While I have complete confidence in ZuWo's leadership abilities, I believe an election should rightfully be held for both positions of leadership rather than a de-facto vacancy.

Have a good vacation Mr. Chairman!
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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2012, 12:20:57 am »

In that case, the office of Chairman is vacant and ZuWo becomes the Chairman:

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4.   The vice chairman assists the chairman in providing executive leadership. The vice-chairman becomes chairman in the event of a vacancy.

Unfortunately there is a problem with our bylaws: we have no provision for a vacancy in the office of Vice-Chairman. Since the Vice-Chairman can only be elected at the convention in April, August, or December, or in the event of a vacancy, maybe we should hold a vote of No Confidence in Vice-Chairman Vacancy? Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2012, 11:14:12 am »

When we reach the appropriate moment, I have some suggestions for amending the Bylaws so this sort of thing doesn't happen again.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 10:15:19 am »

Do you have confidence in the current Vice Chair (vacant)?

[  ] Yes
[X] No
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2012, 05:13:53 pm »

Who should be the new vice chair of the Whig Party?

[1] Simfan34
[2] 20RP12
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2012, 04:31:24 pm »

[1] Clarence
[2] Oakvale
[3] Tweed
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2012, 10:22:59 pm »

Aye.

I support Nathan's position and agree the Whig Party ought to do the same. We must stand in support of the rule of law.
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