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« on: January 27, 2012, 02:14:02 pm »

I need to know more about foreign policy... this sounds based on UN and seems a bit isolationist

How would this party feel about Iran developing a nuke?
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 03:54:51 pm »

I can support that policy though I would be on the hawk side... I  thing the Whig Party would be a better name... Communitarian sounds a bit strange
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 04:19:54 pm »

I can support that policy though I would be on the hawk side... I  thing the Whig Party would be a better name... Communitarian sounds a bit strange

Too close to "communist", huh? Wink

I don't care about the name of that party at all. I just want to join a conservative party, and I like the platform Simfan has proposed.

That's what I was thinking yes- I think it needs a name change but I am happy with platform also. Pingvin and I are the only two Whig members I believe and we talked about merging but the name should change...
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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 04:41:16 pm »


-That gay and lesbian Atlasians are the equals of their heterosexual counterparts, but tradition must be considered


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Take that last part out, and this becomes very tempting for me.

I was not necessarily opposing gay marriage, but literally saying "tradition must be considered". I am more than willing to strike that from the platform.

Clarence: the party is called the Communitarian Party because it is a communitarian party. An economically rightist one, yes but communitarian and Christian-democratic nonetheless.

I'm unfamiliar with the term... but I think these are all minor issues we can settle at our first convention
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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 04:45:17 pm »

Well consider me in!
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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 07:16:56 pm »

I was ok with it for Right to Life but that is because it is consistent with the caucus and there were more important issues I felt... I won't raise a fuss about it if we change the name to Whig Party :-)
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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 07:53:28 pm »

I agree with TJ's sentiments on gay marriage... not only from a practicality view for from ideology also
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 04:48:20 am »

I'm in now!
But communitarian sounds bad for me.
I agree Pingvin
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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 02:43:42 pm »

I heard the suggestion of "Whig" party mentioned. Sounds much better than communitarian. When I hear "Communitarian", I imagine some nice cozy little welfare state somewhere in Europe, very small and very insignificant and with a decidedly leftist tilt. My mental image for "Whig" is Henry Clay or Abe Lincoln wading through the mud stoidly in Kentucky or something, charging boldly and ruggedly ahead in the wilderness, fighting for internal improvements and other stuff. Whig is much better.

Seeing as the RPP is dissolving, I'll put this on my list of parties I'm consider joining.

Communitarianism is an ideology that stresses the importance of the community as an organic social unit, and advocates moral values and tradition.

Parties arent named after their ideology usuually or we would have the Conservative and Liberal parties, not the Republican and Democratic parties. A Whig Party could have a communitarian ideology
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« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 02:46:56 pm »

I heard the suggestion of "Whig" party mentioned. Sounds much better than communitarian. When I hear "Communitarian", I imagine some nice cozy little welfare state somewhere in Europe, very small and very insignificant and with a decidedly leftist tilt. My mental image for "Whig" is Henry Clay or Abe Lincoln wading through the mud stoidly in Kentucky or something, charging boldly and ruggedly ahead in the wilderness, fighting for internal improvements and other stuff. Whig is much better.

Seeing as the RPP is dissolving, I'll put this on my list of parties I'm consider joining.

Communitarianism is an ideology that stresses the importance of the community as an organic social unit, and advocates moral values and tradition.

Parties arent named after their ideology usuually or we would have the Conservative and Liberal parties, not the Republican and Democratic parties. A Whig Party could have a communitarian ideology

I'm totally fine with the Whig Party- but we can see at a convention.
Do we have the registered members to hold convention now?
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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 02:51:32 pm »

ZuWo I read in another post that the Liberal Party is very structured thus members are flocking their way... maybe if we get organized we can get more members. You are right that there may be a ceiling to how many folks theres willing to join our conservative party
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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 02:54:14 pm »

I heard the suggestion of "Whig" party mentioned. Sounds much better than communitarian. When I hear "Communitarian", I imagine some nice cozy little welfare state somewhere in Europe, very small and very insignificant and with a decidedly leftist tilt. My mental image for "Whig" is Henry Clay or Abe Lincoln wading through the mud stoidly in Kentucky or something, charging boldly and ruggedly ahead in the wilderness, fighting for internal improvements and other stuff. Whig is much better.

Seeing as the RPP is dissolving, I'll put this on my list of parties I'm consider joining.

Communitarianism is an ideology that stresses the importance of the community as an organic social unit, and advocates moral values and tradition.

Now THAT'S scary.

Which part is scary to you- community, morals, or tradition? It is sccary that you find those scary!
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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 02:55:35 pm »



What do we think? We currently have 6 members- can we get to 10?
Love this logo Simfan! I have tried to make logos for my campaign on logovictory.com and they do not turn out as well as this. I propose we move to convention and members can join and be eligible at once to vote
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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 03:02:09 pm »

I heard the suggestion of "Whig" party mentioned. Sounds much better than communitarian. When I hear "Communitarian", I imagine some nice cozy little welfare state somewhere in Europe, very small and very insignificant and with a decidedly leftist tilt. My mental image for "Whig" is Henry Clay or Abe Lincoln wading through the mud stoidly in Kentucky or something, charging boldly and ruggedly ahead in the wilderness, fighting for internal improvements and other stuff. Whig is much better.

Seeing as the RPP is dissolving, I'll put this on my list of parties I'm consider joining.

Communitarianism is an ideology that stresses the importance of the community as an organic social unit, and advocates moral values and tradition.

Now THAT'S scary.

Which part is scary to you- community, morals, or tradition? It is sccary that you find those scary!

I don't find any of those things scary, I found the wording scary.

What is "morality" in terms of values? I'd like to know that.

For me this is in terms of abortion, humanitarian foreign intervention, preserving government assistance of the poor who are unable to help themselves, etc
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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 03:07:47 pm »

I heard the suggestion of "Whig" party mentioned. Sounds much better than communitarian. When I hear "Communitarian", I imagine some nice cozy little welfare state somewhere in Europe, very small and very insignificant and with a decidedly leftist tilt. My mental image for "Whig" is Henry Clay or Abe Lincoln wading through the mud stoidly in Kentucky or something, charging boldly and ruggedly ahead in the wilderness, fighting for internal improvements and other stuff. Whig is much better.

Seeing as the RPP is dissolving, I'll put this on my list of parties I'm consider joining.

Communitarianism is an ideology that stresses the importance of the community as an organic social unit, and advocates moral values and tradition.

Now THAT'S scary.

Which part is scary to you- community, morals, or tradition? It is sccary that you find those scary!

I don't find any of those things scary, I found the wording scary.

What is "morality" in terms of values? I'd like to know that.

For me this is in terms of abortion, humanitarian foreign intervention, preserving government assistance of the poor who are unable to help themselves, etc

Humanitarian foreign intervention? Well intentioned, but it can lead to nation building. Are you in favor of that?

Absolutely not- having been on civic action teams in Vietnam where men were killed on a mission to build a school house, I do not want to ever get bogged down on nation building. I have made that very clear in my campaign for Senate also
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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 03:17:30 pm »

I believe yes- by humanitarian I mean genocide. I do not believe in intervening in a civil war or a dictatorship unless it becomes genocide. If we put an end to genoide and then hand over power to a group of tribal leaders, that is success.  Nation building is FAR more then setting up a government... it involves building schools and community buildings. In Afghanistan a major mission of our Navy right now is to subsidize and deliver crops to prevent rural farmers from getting into the opium trade- I would never want to get into things like that
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 03:42:46 pm »

In other news, we have a majority in the IDS legislature. Cheesy
Do we? Who else aside from me and Pingvin?
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 03:45:10 pm »

In other news, we have a majority in the IDS legislature. Cheesy
Do we? Who else aside from me and Pingvin?

And the IDS legislature has 3 members! Smiley

Not anymore... just passed bill to move up to 5. Yelnoc, Teddy, and Taft4Prez are also members
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2012, 05:35:40 pm »

Navy?
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 11:40:58 pm »

Why don't we just begin now? February elections are soon... might as well get the ball rolling
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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2012, 11:45:15 pm »

I think we ought to have conversations about elections... aren't they February 9?
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2012, 12:16:26 am »

That is a given... but aren't ther eother elections?
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2012, 01:07:11 am »

Yes. Do you have endorsements in mind?

I am not even sure what is up for election... I am still a newboy here Surprise
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2012, 09:29:24 pm »

Welcome to the party-
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2012, 09:41:25 pm »

I believe Chair and Vice Chair should have to face election rather then approval... look at how many bad judges are thrown out each year by that practice- not enough
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