January 2012 Jobs Report

[Politico]

I bet you boys were so proud when you finally pulled your grades up from D's to C's.

Obama promised A's, not C's. This is not good enough. And the economy has not even experienced the Euro shock yet, amazingly. It is time to try somebody else in the White House.

[Politico]

Well, it's the Obama-Recovery™, stupid !

Also:

"In December, the increase in payrolls was revised up to 203,000 from an initial report of 200,000. And November payrolls were revised up to 157,000 from 100,000."

...

If just the problems in the South/East of Europe (+Ireland) would go away, the US would now create 300K jobs per month, at least ...

Well, lets look at the real numbers (in thousands).  A comparison between January of 2009 and January of 2012 is most instructive (since same month is involved, "seasonal adjustments" are unnecessary).

                                                                  2009          2012          Change

Civilian noninstitutional population   234,739     242,269           7,530
Civilian Labor Force Level                   153,445     153,485                40
Employed                                    140,436     139,944           -492
Participation                        59.8%       57.8%              2.0

TB, will you ever get over apologizing for Obama?  Is it possible in your mind that anything Obama could (has, or will) do could ever be wrong?  

The "hope and change" of January 2009 is now "got any change, Obama?"

The difference between Obama and Romney:

Obama: "I bless the culture of dependence."
Romney: "God bless the USA."

[Politico]

At least Newt could mount an attack on Obama from a cultural angle (as sad and disturbing as that would be). The economy is all Romney has going for him. Really.

So Obama gets over 60% of the vote?

He only got 53% of the vote when there was:

- "Hope and change"
- A financial crisis to blame on Bush/Republicans
- An old, erratic, unattractive John McCain as his opponent
- Sarah Palin to mock

How in the world is he going to manage anything close to 53% in THIS environment, but especially if another financial crisis hits due to the troubles in Europe? You do realize what Carl's numbers are showing, right? Things are still worse off than they were three years ago when Obama took office. Not just that, but we have an enormous amount of discouraged workers who are not even reflected in the unemployment rate. The real unemployment rate that America is feeling is well into the double digits.

[Politico]

The verbiage about expecting conditions to warrant low rates is confusing. What we ideally want is a clear statement like: "The Committee wants to see hundreds of thousands of Americans get jobs each and every month, even if transitioning hundreds of thousands of people from idleness to unemployment causes temporary spikes in the price of gasoline, primary commodities, or rental housing."

This sort of thought process is scary. The last thing we need is politicians bringing massive stagflation back to America. Stagnation is bad enough.

[Politico]

The "hope and change" of January 2009 is now got any change, Obama?

The difference between Obama and Romney:

Obama: I bless the culture of dependence.
Romney: "God bless the USA."

Fixed.  There should be a law against using quotations around phrases no sane individual would ever utter. 

Truth hurts, huh?

Obama is nothing more than a fan of the nanny state, and somebody who wishes they were the leader of a legit Big Brother government.

[Politico]

At least Newt could mount an attack on Obama from a cultural angle (as sad and disturbing as that would be). The economy is all Romney has going for him. Really.

So Obama gets over 60% of the vote?

He only got 53% of the vote when there was:

- "Hope and change"
- A financial crisis to blame on Bush/Republicans
- An old, erratic, unattractive John McCain as his opponent
- Sarah Palin to mock

How in the world is he going to manage anything close to 53% in THIS environment, but especially if another financial crisis hits due to the troubles in Europe? You do realize what Carl's numbers are showing, right? Things are still worse off than they were three years ago when Obama took office. Not just that, but we have an enormous amount of discouraged workers who are not even reflected in the unemployment rate. The real unemployment rate that America is feeling is well into the double digits.

We are talking about Newt Gingrich here...

Oh yeah. I missed that part. Yeah, Gingrich would probably lose about 58-40 or so. I am not going to go there because I already have numerous times.

Romney/Obama will either be 49-49 one way or the other, or a 54-44 win for Romney.

[Politico]

At least Newt could mount an attack on Obama from a cultural angle (as sad and disturbing as that would be). The economy is all Romney has going for him. Really.

So Obama gets over 60% of the vote?

He only got 53% of the vote when there was:

- "Hope and change"
- A financial crisis to blame on Bush/Republicans
- An old, erratic, unattractive John McCain as his opponent
- Sarah Palin to mock

How in the world is he going to manage anything close to 53% in THIS environment, but especially if another financial crisis hits due to the troubles in Europe? You do realize what Carl's numbers are showing, right? Things are still worse off than they were three years ago when Obama took office. Not just that, but we have an enormous amount of discouraged workers who are not even reflected in the unemployment rate. The real unemployment rate that America is feeling is well into the double digits.

We are talking about Newt Gingrich here...

Oh yeah. I missed that part. Yeah, Gingrich would probably lose about 58-40 or so. I am not going to go there because I already have numerous times.

Romney/Obama will either be 49-49 one way or the other, or a 54-44 win for Romney.

But not 53-45 Romney, or 50-48 Obama?

Obviously the figures are an approximation. However, although I think Obama could obtain a plurality, I do not think he has any chance of obtaining a majority against Romney.

[Politico]

At least Newt could mount an attack on Obama from a cultural angle (as sad and disturbing as that would be). The economy is all Romney has going for him. Really.

So Obama gets over 60% of the vote?

He only got 53% of the vote when there was:

- "Hope and change"
- A financial crisis to blame on Bush/Republicans
- An old, erratic, unattractive John McCain as his opponent
- Sarah Palin to mock

How in the world is he going to manage anything close to 53% in THIS environment, but especially if another financial crisis hits due to the troubles in Europe? You do realize what Carl's numbers are showing, right? Things are still worse off than they were three years ago when Obama took office. Not just that, but we have an enormous amount of discouraged workers who are not even reflected in the unemployment rate. The real unemployment rate that America is feeling is well into the double digits.

We are talking about Newt Gingrich here...

Oh yeah. I missed that part. Yeah, Gingrich would probably lose about 58-40 or so. I am not going to go there because I already have numerous times.

Romney/Obama will either be 49-49 one way or the other, or a 54-44 win for Romney.

But not 53-45 Romney, or 50-48 Obama?

Obviously the figures are an approximation. However, although I think Obama could obtain a plurality, I do not think he has any chance of obtaining a majority against Romney.

Even if unemployment drops below 7%(assuming we keep dropping .2 each month, under the most optimistic expectations)?

Yes. The rate drop has been completely driven by discouraged workers.

[Politico]

Yes. The rate drop has been completely driven by discouraged workers.

Cite?

Look at Carl's post. There are literally millions more discouraged workers today compared to three years ago. The participation rate has gone down two percentage points over the past three years, or roughly 3.3%. Not how you want to get the unemployment rate to come down. Gallup also has their underemployment figure well over 15%, too.

[Politico]

Yes. The rate drop has been completely driven by discouraged workers.

Cite?

Look at Carl's post.

Politico,

You have to understand that facts are irrelevant to Obama supporters.

Yeah, you have to wonder if they're going to think they got sucked into a wormhole on Tuesday, November 6. They really have NO IDEA what is going to happen. It's going to be hilarious.

[Politico]

Yes. The rate drop has been completely driven by discouraged workers.

Cite?

Look at Carl's post.

Politico,

You have to understand that facts are irrelevant to Obama supporters.

Yeah, you have to wonder if they're going to think they got sucked into a wormhole on Tuesday, November 6. They really have NO IDEA what is going to happen. It's going to be hilarious.

Will you be sticking around the forum if your homeboy loses?

$10,000 bet?