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« Reply #75 on: January 28, 2012, 02:30:18 PM »

Fuchsia is ugly (though it's also the best character in Gormenghast, so I guess that averages out).

For the record, I haven't been neglecting Atlasia, but I have been at the end of my first week back at university after the winter break.

I'm also not terribly enamored of 'Social Democratic Union', to be perfectly honest. I was neutral on the dissolution of the JCP. I would support 'Labor Party'. For our color, how about maroon or some inoffensive shade of pink?
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« Reply #76 on: January 28, 2012, 03:27:34 PM »

Let's solve all these issues by a vote ! Maybe a new thread would be nice.
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« Reply #77 on: January 28, 2012, 06:17:31 PM »

Done.

If anybody has any objections to the voting system, raise them in the thread after the vote and we can talk about changing it for future votes.
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« Reply #78 on: January 28, 2012, 06:35:41 PM »

Where do we want to have our first party convention, if anywhere in particular? For obvious personal reasons I'd be up for Boston, but Chicago has a great deal of symbolic value in the history of the Atlasian left. I'm also up for other suggestions.
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« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2012, 01:00:56 AM »

We need to get more people to join. I do NOT want us to become some sort of de facto appendage to the Liberals. Any ideas?
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« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2012, 01:10:10 AM »

What is this party's new name? I'll join if I have an idea of what you guys are doing.
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« Reply #81 on: January 29, 2012, 01:21:03 AM »

Currently we are the Social Democratic Union (Name Subject To Change). We are voting on a proposed name change to Labor Party of Atlasia as well as a party blazon (the options are maroon or either of two shades of pink). I'm interested in getting membership up and talking to the other parties of the left, as well as non-left parties like the Liberals and Communitarians in areas where we have mutual interests. I understand that you're involved in a relatively large caucus of independent social democrats; we'd greatly appreciate your joining us or at least giving your input.

Our next big order of business is a party convention. If possible I'd like that to be in the first week of February, right before the elections. I've proposed Boston or Chicago as the fantasy locations. We can either have me as the Chairman draw up a platform and have it amended and voted upon at the convention, or we can go into the convention without a draft platform and build one plank by plank once we're there in an exercise of direct democracy. Whichever the membership would prefer.
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« Reply #82 on: January 29, 2012, 02:11:22 AM »

I can now join the party, since the JCP has resolved.
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« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2012, 02:13:40 AM »

Welcome! Don't forget to vote on our party name and color, and any input on where to hold our convention and how to put together a platform would be much appreciated.

Once we decide on a color and name we also should start talking about a logo.
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« Reply #84 on: January 29, 2012, 05:28:18 AM »

If this party is to be more than just some vague liberal grouping, it had best have some sort of theoretical basis. I'd like to see a party for once adopt a set of principles rather than slapping together a bunch of opinions and calling it a platform.
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« Reply #85 on: January 29, 2012, 05:36:51 AM »
« Edited: January 29, 2012, 05:45:45 AM by Nathan »

Oh, believe me, it will. If I have any sort of hand in the platform, it is going to include phrases like 'alienation of labor' and 'preferential option for the poor', come Hell or high water.

(Maybe not those exact phrases.)
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« Reply #86 on: January 29, 2012, 05:41:26 AM »

At this point, I've spent enough time in Atlasia that I no longer really care about the elections. I'm only in it to develop ideas.
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« Reply #87 on: January 29, 2012, 05:47:36 AM »

I'd certainly be open to seeing some of your ideas that might be included in a platform, either now or at the convention, or both.
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« Reply #88 on: January 29, 2012, 05:50:32 AM »

Perhaps when it's not a quarter to three in the morning, I shall share them.
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« Reply #89 on: January 29, 2012, 09:30:58 AM »

I definitely support Chicago, being from the Chicago area.
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« Reply #90 on: January 29, 2012, 06:49:03 PM »

I am trying to figure out who is now a member of this party. I am not sure why it has been said that members of the old caucus need to re-register? But anyway, going strictly by the new register thread, we have:

(*have voted on name/color)

Antonio V*
Seatown*
Jackson*
hawkeye59*
Nathan*
Fritz*
Windis*

These people are listed as JCP/SDC in the Census, and may need to re-register (?):

Fuzzy*
JulioMadrid
Tender Branson
Pyrofox
Snowstalker

This person is not a member, as far as I can tell:

Xahar*
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« Reply #91 on: January 29, 2012, 07:02:36 PM »

It is imperative that we gain or maintain the official membership of the six people participating in the party but not yet formal members. Fritz, would you be willing to PM some of those people whom you might know better than I do and remind them?
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« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2012, 07:22:17 PM »

Antonio sent a PM to that effect this morning.

Why is this a problem, though?  Can't we simply have bgwah, as JCP leader, inform the RG that members of the caucus are now members of the party?
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« Reply #93 on: January 29, 2012, 07:32:58 PM »

That's what I thought. I didn't think it was a problem. Other people were making it out to be a problem. I'll ask bgwah to do that.
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« Reply #94 on: January 29, 2012, 07:44:48 PM »

I'd be honored to receive this party's support in the Northeast Governor race. I feel most of us are on the same page, but I can detail my credentials for you if so desired. Smiley
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« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2012, 07:51:37 PM »

You know I'll be personally supporting you, Napoleon, but I can't guarantee party endorsements until at least the convention later this week/next weekend.
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« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2012, 11:50:02 PM »

I can see why there may be a problem.  We've had people registering with the Social Democratic Union, before the JCP was dissolved and the Social Democratic Caucus still exists. Thus from the RG's standpoint, th SDC and the SDU are two seperate entities.

Fuzzy, Julio, Tender, Pyrofox, Snowstalker- could you guys register with the new party please?  THANKS!
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« Reply #97 on: January 30, 2012, 12:04:32 AM »

I've asked bgwah to clarify matters with the RG on Wednesday if there remain any issues by then, and he said yes.

Xahar, you should formally register as well.
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