To the new Parties

[Simfan34]

While I'm skeptical you would find our party to be the right fit for you, if you consider:

-a party that promotes social capital and strong civic institutions as they are the best way to advance and maintain democracy
-a party that believes in the government, as an arm of the people, can help advance the well being of the people, but should not dominate them, their lives, or their business
-a party that believes in a society of values, those namely being mutual respect, social stability, toleration and diversity, tradition, and an interest in the common good
-a party that promotes an internationalist and multilateral foreign policy yet a robust defense policy
-a party that elevates and supports science and the arts
-a party that thinks in terms of the long-term and making investments in the future

to be a party that closely fits your views, then I would suggest you join us in the Communitarian Party.

[Simfan34]

Role of government- The government, in a democratic society, is an extension of the people. Thus the role of government should be determined by the desires and the interests of the people and the furthering of our well-being as a nation.

Fiscal Matters: Re the debt crises and solutions- We support fiscal responsibility and will look at systems to reform entitlement spending, military spending, and needless waste; however the government must continue to meet its obligations- both to lenders and the people

Foreign Policy- We promote a internationalist and multilateral foreign policy yet a robust defense policy. We shy away from needless foreign interventions, but are committed to defending our country and achieving the goals we set out in both our diplomacy and military actions. In regards to "nation building", we stand opposed to continued military operations to achieve political and societal goals abroad, and to that extent support aid and multilateral peacekeeping to accomplish those goals at a substantially lesser cost to both life and money

Civil Liberties- We support civil liberties in general, but are supportive of maintaining social cohesion, increasing social capital, and are mindful of tradition in general.

Abortion- We generally oppose abortion, and to that extent are in favor of making abortion rarer and encouraging other options for the preservation of the life of the unborn. We are hopeful that with medical advances that abortion will be reduced 

Marriage- The status of marriage should remain as it is currently. We support the idea of marriage and believe that the nuclear family, composed of two married parents* and children, is the optimal form of the family, and is most ingenious way of raising responsible children and citizens.

Religious Freedom- All Atlasians are entitled to hold the religious beliefs they choose. Religious organizations are an example of the organic communities on which our nation is built on, and should be left alone as long as they do not act in a manner that his harmful to the body politic.

Education- We believe that all Atlasians are entitled to a free and public education. While we strongly support a coherent national curriculum and common core standards, education should largely be the purview of the regions. We also support school choice, charter schools, and vouchers- whatever allows students to receive the best education; however public schools should be strengthened as well.

Immigration- Immigration strengthens and enrichens Atlasia- we are all, with the exception of First Nations peoples, Immigrants. We should encourage it and lower the legal barriers skilled individuals and international students face coming to and staying Atlasia. However we must stem the tide of illegal immigration as it harms our economy and subverts civil society and communities.

*I am deliberately not saying "husband and wife"

[Simfan34]

JCL, you'd probably end up like this: agreeing with the IFP on fiscal and foreign policy matters and agreeing with the CPA on social issues. The CPA though isn't completely opposed to your views on economics and foreign policy, they are moderate on both. It's a matter of which views you're willing to compromise.

The only CPA is the one which fights for the proletariat, not your bourgeois sham party!

We have 2 CPAs!

[Simfan34]

JCL, you'd probably end up like this: agreeing with the IFP on fiscal and foreign policy matters and agreeing with the CPA on social issues. The CPA though isn't completely opposed to your views on economics and foreign policy, they are moderate on both. It's a matter of which views you're willing to compromise.

The only CPA is the one which fights for the proletariat, not your bourgeois sham party!

He was talking about the Communitarian Party

Our CPA, then.

[Simfan34]

Marriage- The status of marriage should remain as it is currently. We support the idea of marriage and believe that the nuclear family, composed of two married parents* and children, is the optimal form of the family, and is most ingenious way of raising responsible children and citizens.

To be honest, I prefer multigenerational extended families to nuclear families. What are your feelings on that subject?

While we believe multigenerational families have many advantages, and are arguably superior in achieving the aforementioned goals than the nuclear family, modern society does not really have the multigenerational family as a common unit. It has our full support and shall in no way be discouraged by our platform

As for gay adoption, I think Cathcon and Clarence have stated the position of the party quite well. We are for familial stability- that's the bottom line.

Why do you oppose gay adoption. Sure, some of us might prefer that gay couples not exist, but they do. I'd rather have a child growing up in a family, as non-traditional as it might be (short of crime, etc.) than in a government orphanage. Those kids that are stuck there will hardly be ready for the world when they leave at the age of eighteen, and it's better in my opinion to have them growing up in a household.

Amen...rather in a gay household then aborted

Thats, um, progressive?

I don't see it like that. We have two married parents and children. Many liberals reject that model as outdated. We don't. Just because the parents may be of the same sex, doesn't make it progressive.

[Simfan34]

Marriage- The status of marriage should remain as it is currently. We support the idea of marriage and believe that the nuclear family, composed of two married parents* and children, is the optimal form of the family, and is most ingenious way of raising responsible children and citizens.

To be honest, I prefer multigenerational extended families to nuclear families. What are your feelings on that subject?

While we believe multigenerational families have many advantages, and are arguably superior in achieving the aforementioned goals than the nuclear family, modern society does not really have the multigenerational family as a common unit. It has our full support and shall in no way be discouraged by our platform

As for gay adoption, I think Cathcon and Clarence have stated the position of the party quite well. We are for familial stability- that's the bottom line.

As a member of one of those few remaining stable multigenerational families (that doesn't all live in one place but whose members are in much closer contact than most aunts and uncles and nephews and nieces and cousins these days), good. I sometimes wonder if anything can be done to make the extended family a more relevant social unit again, but I haven't yet thought of anything.

We would be more than willing to support that movement.  I kind of feel like you should be in our party!

[Simfan34]

The CPA is center-right- more socially rightist than it is economically rightist.

[Simfan34]

Why do you oppose gay adoption. Sure, some of us might prefer that gay couples not exist, but they do. I'd rather have a child growing up in a family, as non-traditional as it might be (short of crime, etc.) than in a government orphanage. Those kids that are stuck there will hardly be ready for the world when they leave at the age of eighteen, and it's better in my opinion to have them growing up in a household.

I've heard of a LGBT couple in California that are giving shots to their adopted son to suppress his masculinity. The worse part is that this couple professes to be Jewish. Science proves that childern are best raised in a home with a married father and mother anything else and that kid will struggle with his or her self-identity.

I firmly believe in family stability. However gay marriage and adoption is a line I will not cross.

That is a failing of the people as a couple, forcing sexuality upon him, not of gay people in general. I will propose that the CPA support legislation illegalizing the forcing of sexuality upon children.

The CPA is center-right- more socially rightist than it is economically rightist.

That's still further right than I'm necessarily comfortable with. Besides, the Social Democratic Union (Name Subject To Change) specifically sent for me to be its first Chairman and to the best of my knowledge there weren't even any other candidates. I can't just leave them at the altar!

I'd have to run this by my rank and file first, but I'd definitely be up for possible agreements or alliances on areas where our parties find agreement.

Why do you oppose gay adoption. Sure, some of us might prefer that gay couples not exist, but they do. I'd rather have a child growing up in a family, as non-traditional as it might be (short of crime, etc.) than in a government orphanage. Those kids that are stuck there will hardly be ready for the world when they leave at the age of eighteen, and it's better in my opinion to have them growing up in a household.

I've heard of a LGBT couple in California that are giving shots to their adopted son to suppress his masculinity. The worse part is that this couple professes to be Jewish. Science proves that childern are best raised in a home with a married father and mother anything else and that kid will struggle with his or her self-identity.

I firmly believe in family stability. However gay marriage and adoption is a line I will not cross.

Anti-gay adoption: Because the plural of anecdote is data

Well, I wish you the best of success ,and I hope we can work together for families, communities, and Atlasia.

[Simfan34]

And both were understood.

[Simfan34]

Which new party should I join? I've only known 1 party my whole life in Atlasia, and needless to say, I feel naked without my RPP. I need a new home or I need to leave

Join CPA! We can be your new, comfortable home .

On ZuWo's lines, I think the CPA is a bit to the right to you socially, but hey, every party needs its liberal wing.