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« on: January 31, 2012, 08:05:43 AM »
« edited: March 02, 2012, 02:49:08 AM by Mad Marokai, PPT »

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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 06:10:07 PM »

We're now voting on the following amendment, as Napoleon has objected. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.




Nay.
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2012, 09:00:19 PM »

I change my vote on the amendment to Aye.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2012, 09:16:02 PM »


Grr.. The way TJ's amendment is worded isn't exactly what I would like. I hate doing this, but change my vote to Abstain. Attack on our soil could be interpreted to mean many things.
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2012, 12:31:19 AM »

I'll change my vote to Nay. The amendment still isn't failing by a majority though. I realized I haven't changed the title of this thread, which probably doesn't help get attention, so I apologize for that. Either way, continue!
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 10:13:40 AM »

The amendment has failed.

Before we move on to dealing with the other amendments. Jake, would you consider withdrawing your amendment for the sake of the consideration of TJ's? And/or I'd like Napoleon's input on these amendments before we move on to a new vote.
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 10:55:24 PM »

So, since Napoleon is unfriendly to the amendment, and Jake withdraws his previous, we are now voting on the following amendment. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain:




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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2012, 07:45:02 AM »

This amendment is now failing.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 07:24:31 AM »

Amendment #2 is dusted. Now Amendment #3!

We're now voting on the following, please vote aye, nay, or abstain:

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« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 07:33:57 AM »

Aye, and this amendment is now failing. You're a picky bunch. Tongue

24 hours!
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 01:49:47 AM »

The previous amendment has failed. Out of respect for Yankee, even though it is a blatant reintroduction of the amendment we voted on previously and I could just strike it.. I'll open a vote on it. Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2012, 04:50:52 AM »

5-4, folks.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 09:55:17 AM »

I direct you all to my post in the Senate Analysis thread as an explanation for my absence from the Senate. In short: I was sick, spent most of three days in bed, asked BK to take over the Senate for me, and he apparently refused. I followed procedure with my absence, someone else did not. The only person you can blame for my absence at that point would be the flu.

If Napoleon has any problem with my performance in the PPT position I would enjoy hearing his list of criticisms prior to the last four days. Since he seems so furious with me, he must have such large controversies to point to that clearly discredit me for this job; a job I have performed promptly in, according to procedure in, and have done in the past just as well.



In regards to the voting on this amendment, and the legality of Polnut's vote change, I will rule in Yankee's favor. Voting on amendments ends after five days, whether I'm hear to call it at that specific moment or not. Because of that, I will not count Polnut's vote change, and because of the 5-4 vote at the time of the vote's end, I will consider Yankee's amendment passed.

Since I suspect some of you will have issues with that, I'll leave this bill open to debate for another day before we deal with a final vote. It is so ordered!
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2012, 09:03:10 PM »

A 5-4 result will not pass the underlying measure.


Therefore, I will ask again if their is room for a compromise that could generate a passable result or not?

I'd really like to know the same thing, because I would like this to pass somehow.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2012, 09:19:37 PM »

Actually, as of right now, this Amendment has no official sponsor. Thanks to Scott pointing out to me that Napoleon is no longer a Senator, this Amendment needs someone to step up for sponsorship, and we need to wait 48 hours afterward. If no one assumes sponsorship, this Amendment will be withdrawn.

Neener neener.
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2012, 09:25:33 PM »

I would be honored to assume sponsorship.

Senators have 48 hours to object.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2012, 10:42:31 PM »

Scott is now the sponsor of this Amendment. And I'm going to open up a final vote on it momentarily, because as Polnut said, we seem to be getting nowhere.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2012, 10:47:16 PM »

I hereby open a final vote on the following Constitutional Amendment, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

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« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2012, 08:19:27 AM »

3 - 3 so far.
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2012, 12:48:04 AM »

This Amendment is failing.

Which is a shame, because it's better than the status-quo. But it seems some people want perfection..
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« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2012, 02:48:54 AM »

This Amendment has failed. Sad
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