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Question: Who do you support for governor (NE residents only)?
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« Reply #50 on: February 03, 2012, 05:42:47 PM »

You were also forced to remove your name from consideration due to an abysmal track record.
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« Reply #51 on: February 03, 2012, 06:45:49 PM »

You can say that all you want but it doesn't erase the fact that many of us remember the disaster following an election where ideology and party affiliation were the only factors contributing to the candidate's victory. My experience, competence and creativity are certainly more valuable to the future of this region than simple ideology. Voters who want to see this region flourish once again can take comfort in knowing that I will set a new standard for the Governor's office. If elected, I will be more prepared for this job than any Governor since, I suppose, AndrewCT (although I guess he is Governor now too). Throughout my terms as Senator I've remained in close touch with regional government. I've been involved consistently but I'm ready to do more.

I admire your qualifications, Senator, and as I have said I admire you.  I do not accuse you of being out-of-touch, nor do I suggest that you love this region less than I.  I merely believe that people are craving a fresh face and new ideas.  Now, Senator, can we focus on more pressing issues, such as state budgets and abortion?
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« Reply #52 on: February 03, 2012, 07:05:04 PM »

You were also forced to remove your name from consideration due to an abysmal track record.

?  I would welcome him to a debate, though I don't agree with his past.
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« Reply #53 on: February 03, 2012, 07:06:06 PM »

I'm proposing reforms to promote activity, reforms to how the legislature works, reform to how tax and budget policies work, and you want to talk about abortion? Okay...where do you stand on abortion, Representative?
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« Reply #54 on: February 03, 2012, 07:06:31 PM »

I'm proposing reforms to promote activity, reforms to how the legislature works, reform to how tax and budget policies work, and you want to talk about abortion? Okay...where do you stand on abortion, Representative?
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« Reply #55 on: February 03, 2012, 07:12:20 PM »

I'm proposing reforms to promote activity, reforms to how the legislature works, reform to how tax and budget policies work, and you want to talk about abortion? Okay...where do you stand on abortion, Representative?

Alright, I didn't know that was pressing.  On abortion, I consider myself pro-life, while not being an extremist.  I believe that partial-birth abortion is horrible, and would not be necessary if we keep abortion and the morning-after pill safe, legal, and rare.  While I confess that I don't have much in mind for legislative reform, I was going to talk about balanced budgets, etc.  I'd like to enact a proposal, and in fact I proposed this to the legislature, which would require holding spending at or below inflation, and requiring a 2/3 majority to increase taxes.  I believe this is an efficient way to keep spending low and stop the expansion of tax rates.
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« Reply #56 on: February 03, 2012, 07:20:08 PM »

All that does is tie our hands and prevent us from effectively managing economic circumstances. That's too extreme for an environmentally conscious, business-friendly region. The chance of the legislature passing a pro-life bill is 0%.
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« Reply #57 on: February 03, 2012, 07:22:47 PM »

All that does is tie our hands and prevent us from effectively managing economic circumstances. That's too extreme for an environmentally conscious, business-friendly region. The chance of the legislature passing a pro-life bill is 0%.

Well I appreciate your cancern, Senator, but in extraordinary circumstances tax hikes can still be passed, they just require a 2/3 majority, as they should.  This would ensure bipartisan support for any tax increases.
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« Reply #58 on: February 03, 2012, 07:24:30 PM »

Has that policy ever worked?
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« Reply #59 on: February 03, 2012, 07:26:55 PM »


It hasn't ever been tried Wink
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« Reply #60 on: February 03, 2012, 07:31:41 PM »

I'll be back in about an hour or so.
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« Reply #61 on: February 04, 2012, 07:59:27 AM »

I am the only pro-life and pro-business candidate in this race. If you want someone who will maintain the status quo, then vote for my opponents, but if you want someone who will turn things upside down and shake things up, then I'm your man.
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« Reply #62 on: February 04, 2012, 10:04:00 AM »

Care to provide any evidence for your claims?
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« Reply #63 on: February 04, 2012, 10:34:56 AM »

Is there any doubt that my experiences in public office have been completely out of the ordinary from the Atlasian elite?
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« Reply #64 on: February 04, 2012, 10:40:08 AM »
« Edited: February 04, 2012, 12:45:04 PM by Senator Napoleon »

I wouldn't know. I'd rather not risk finding out.

What have you done for the region lately? What policy changes do you propose? Why did you run an inactive campaign in October? Why are you running an inactive campaign now? And the question we are all asking, which Atlasians are the elites?
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« Reply #65 on: February 04, 2012, 01:11:29 PM »

I would rather not descend to personal attacks, nor will I question a candidate's love for this great nation and our great nation, though I believe that I have worked very hard in my short time in public office, and I appreciate certain aspects of what both candidates have done for our great region.  But I will say that I will strive for excellence if you put me behind that desk, as will the others, but that we differ greatly in our methods of reaching excellence.
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« Reply #66 on: February 04, 2012, 03:06:49 PM »

I am merely bumping this.  Next debate will be next weekend?  This one can last till 11:59 pm Sunday, though with the upcoming Super Bowl I doubt a lot of posting will be done tomorrow.
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« Reply #67 on: February 04, 2012, 04:32:34 PM »

Also, as your governor, I would fight the federal government and try to replace the Atlasian public healthcare system with market-based alternatives in order to cut costs.  I would spend my own money to bring this issue before the Supreme Court, but my primary goal would still be on tax and spending cuts, as well as getting the government off of the backs of the private sector.  I believe in lowering rates but also minimizing loopholes to simplify the tax code, which is so complex that many Northeasterners have to pay an attorney to do their taxes for them, which is a burden on the working class.  While deductions mean well, by the time they get their deductions almost all of it goes to the lawyer who spent hours, sometimes days doing the grueling process that we all loathe.
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« Reply #68 on: February 04, 2012, 06:52:30 PM »

I think the voters have learned enough in this debate. I might be interested in a moderated debate but it needs discussed. By the way, are you running for regional assembly? Why won't you commit to running for one office as I have?
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« Reply #69 on: February 04, 2012, 08:13:07 PM »

My campaign platform is to do the opposite of whatever Napolean will do.
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« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2012, 08:13:26 PM »

I think the voters have learned enough in this debate. I might be interested in a moderated debate but it needs discussed. By the way, are you running for regional assembly? Why won't you commit to running for one office as I have?

Because in the event that I do not win, I wish to continue my fight for liberty in this region and Atlasia.  If I am elected I will resign my seat in the assembly.  However, I will be honest, Senator, I believe you are avoiding the real issues.  I brought up the budget, the reform, spending, and taxes, yet you descend to this?  I believe Atlasians deserve more than that, Senator.
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« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2012, 08:18:53 PM »

I think the voters have learned enough in this debate. I might be interested in a moderated debate but it needs discussed. By the way, are you running for regional assembly? Why won't you commit to running for one office as I have?

Because in the event that I do not win, I wish to continue my fight for liberty in this region and Atlasia.  If I am elected I will resign my seat in the assembly.  However, I will be honest, Senator, I believe you are avoiding the real issues.  I brought up the budget, the reform, spending, and taxes, yet you descend to this?  I believe Atlasians deserve more than that, Senator.

From my experience in this region, I have come to understand that such practice is frowned upon by many voters. To say it is not an issue is naive.
Debate is over, however. Smiley
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« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2012, 08:20:39 PM »

I think the voters have learned enough in this debate. I might be interested in a moderated debate but it needs discussed. By the way, are you running for regional assembly? Why won't you commit to running for one office as I have?

Because in the event that I do not win, I wish to continue my fight for liberty in this region and Atlasia.  If I am elected I will resign my seat in the assembly.  However, I will be honest, Senator, I believe you are avoiding the real issues.  I brought up the budget, the reform, spending, and taxes, yet you descend to this?  I believe Atlasians deserve more than that, Senator.

From my experience in this region, I have come to understand that such practice is frowned upon by many voters. To say it is not an issue is naive.
Debate is over, however. Smiley

I would like to invite you to debate again, next time with a moderator. Smiley
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