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« on: February 08, 2012, 12:58:38 PM »

His campaign has been declarded dead exactly three times now.  Yet somehow each time, it has risen from the dead.
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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2012, 01:05:55 PM »

His campaign has been declarded dead exactly three times now.  Yet somehow each time, it has risen from the dead.

people can't stomach Newt...so, though they like the idea of using him to screw with the Establishment, they can't take him for long. 

he could rise again, but if he does, it wont last.
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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2012, 01:08:58 PM »

Newt will surge as the new-new-new-new-new... anti-Romney in the days before Super Tuesday and win a majority of states. He will then almost immediately collapse, again.
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2012, 01:14:44 PM »

Lief is right. I'm not giving up hope. Gingrich 2012! Gingrich 2016! Gingrich forever!

I should add that I don't want Newt to actually be elected President, just run in every election for the rest of his life.
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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2012, 02:48:15 PM »

He's not done getting delegates, but he's done being the potential nominee. The only questions left are- how many delegates can he get and what can he do with them? To his advantage, he could do well in Southern states and they have a lot of bonus delegates. It could be a working chunk if he can last until Texas.

The big question for me is- can the anti-Romney break through in the rust belt. If Romney can't win the midwest or the South, and NY and Cal are way late in teh process, how does Mitt get anywhere close to the delegates he needs? There just aren't enough in New England and the West until California. Mitt really needs Ill., Wisc, Mich, Ind, Ohio, Penn. Does Gingrich staying in hurt Santorum's chances there (or vice versa)?
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2012, 04:27:57 PM »

Romney is going to focus both guns on Santorum and Santorum will no longer have the time to attack Newt. Meanwhile Gingrich will solidify the south in Super Tuesday and push for an Ohio win, if he can do that his campaign rebounds, if he loses Ohio, but wins the south he still stays in for a long fight. Arizona and Michigan will be interesting. Hopefully Romney will lose to Paul in Maine.

Hurray for colorful maps! And you Romney supporters thought this would be the first time in eons that a candidate has won every primary (well really ever since smoke filled rooms before the convention don't really count).
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2012, 04:32:43 PM »

I think if Newt's only hope is to not get attacked - he's done Jim.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2012, 04:40:20 PM »

Bob, how is Gingrich going to solidify the South on Super Tuesday when he is not even on the ballot in 1 of the 3 southern states that vote Super Tuesday? Gingrich is only on the ballot in Georgia and Tennessee (Virginia only has Romney and Paul on the ballot).
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2012, 05:08:25 PM »

Bob, how is Gingrich going to solidify the South on Super Tuesday when he is not even on the ballot in 1 of the 3 southern states that vote Super Tuesday? Gingrich is only on the ballot in Georgia and Tennessee (Virginia only has Romney and Paul on the ballot).

Virginia's laws are incredibly difficult that the only two able to get on the ballot are Romney and Paul. Very suspicious....
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2012, 08:29:29 PM »

Bob, how is Gingrich going to solidify the South on Super Tuesday when he is not even on the ballot in 1 of the 3 southern states that vote Super Tuesday? Gingrich is only on the ballot in Georgia and Tennessee (Virginia only has Romney and Paul on the ballot).

Virginia's laws are incredibly difficult that the only two able to get on the ballot are Romney and Paul. Very suspicious....

Oklahoma has its primary as well. What's Romney going to win besides VA, MA? Possibly VT? He'll have to try real hard to take Alaska and North Dakota and even if he takes that there's virtually no delegates.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 10:12:15 PM »

Newt will surge as the new-new-new-new-new... anti-Romney in the days before Super Tuesday and win a majority of states. He will then almost immediately collapse, again.

I'm sort of expecting this to happen as well.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 10:16:53 PM »

His campaign has been declarded dead exactly three times now.  Yet somehow each time, it has risen from the dead.

people can't stomach Newt...so, though they like the idea of using him to screw with the Establishment, they can't take him for long. 

he could rise again, but if he does, it wont last.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 10:17:34 PM »

The moon colony thing totally killed him. There's no backtracking from a statement like that.
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2012, 11:56:35 PM »

He was battered by a parade of attack ads, was murdered in the last five (soon to be six and then seven) states, pulled off some lacklustre debate performances, Frothy is stealing his thunder and his biggest backer appears to be giving up.

He's probably not totally dead and might even start winning again later, but he isn't getting anywhere near the nomination (as was the case even after South Carolina).
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« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2012, 12:24:44 AM »

We can't have another statist Republican run office again, yet Bush was pretty close to being one.  Gingrich has too much baggage to make a clear victory for general election.  He is a smart man, I will give him credit on that. 
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2012, 01:06:45 AM »

Newt got a short bump in South Carolina thanks to ABC news.
South Carolinians voted against the press thanks to the very unethical interview with his ex-wife, and opening up with that question at the debate. Also because of the way he handled Juan Williams questions which I thought were off base because they were leading questions.
Beyond that, he has not won any other states and hasn't fared even close behind.
He has zero chance of getting enough women and minority votes to win in the general election. The GOP power brokers have to know that. He can't just win by sweeping the South in the general election, not even saying that he could do that.
If he really hates Romney the way he says he does, and really just wants a conservative to be on the ticket, he should drop out now before Romney gains any steam and starts taking winner take all states.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2012, 01:28:53 AM »

He's not done getting delegates, but he's done being the potential nominee. The only questions left are- how many delegates can he get and what can he do with them? To his advantage, he could do well in Southern states and they have a lot of bonus delegates. It could be a working chunk if he can last until Texas.

The big question for me is- can the anti-Romney break through in the rust belt. If Romney can't win the midwest or the South, and NY and Cal are way late in teh process, how does Mitt get anywhere close to the delegates he needs? There just aren't enough in New England and the West until California. Mitt really needs Ill., Wisc, Mich, Ind, Ohio, Penn. Does Gingrich staying in hurt Santorum's chances there (or vice versa)?

Romney has to win Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio in the rust belt, and do really well in Pennsylvania and the Texas primary whenever the hell that is.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2012, 04:54:15 AM »

If Romney can't win the midwest or the South, and NY and Cal are way late in teh process, how does Mitt get anywhere close to the delegates he needs? There just aren't enough in New England and the West until California. Mitt really needs Ill., Wisc, Mich, Ind, Ohio, Penn.

I think you answered your own question.  Romney gets the delegates he needs, but he does so late in the process, because the calendar is so backloaded this year.  He probably clinches the nomination on June 5, when California votes.
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