The "PPP leaks stuff about their polls" thread

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 VP debate looks like a draw in the swing states where we launched polls tonight. Not a game changer either way
 

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Our PPP poll will have the most pessimistic Obama numbers of the week. - @markos




Great news!

They are probably setting a low bar for Obama this week, so they can show a big bounce next week ...

ppp pollsters are honest people. No ?

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Yeah you can definitely see this one coming from a mile away.. PPP weekly poll will be very pessimistic for Obama this week, then show a big bounce next week to try to get him momentum.

It really does seem quite likely. There's no reason for numbers coming out right now to be particularly pessimistic for Obama, unless they are polling for some sort of unthought of element or something, so it may well be a builder. I'm not going to say that PPP is purposely skewing their polls (perhaps, but it's unlikely) but maybe they got a poor sample and will over publish it in this case knowing it will revert back.

Of course, maybe it really just is a bunch of bad numbers for Obama/an honestly bad sample. Often around here we forget that the simple, non-conspiracy path is always a possibility.

their last poll was bad for Obama (R by 2 I think). Maybe R+3 or +4 now. The thing to see will be the party id of the sample...