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« on: January 10, 2005, 02:57:59 PM »
He has my total support. I'm a great fan of the Basque cause, which sadly might have met much more improvement if it hadn't been because of ETA. And I think the PP should stop being so stubburn about autonomies.
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« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 03:15:03 PM »
I support Basque independence.
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« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 03:16:04 PM »
Really don't care either way.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 08:52:48 PM »
I don't care either.  It isn't my place to make a judgment.
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2005, 08:55:00 PM »
No.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 04:42:10 AM »
No; once you start messing with borders, it'll never end. Only in exceptional cases (Palestine, Montenegro, Western Sahara) would I even consider supporting the formation of new nations. Autonomy I don't care.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 01:47:09 PM »
Quote from: M on January 11, 2005, 04:42:10 AM
No; once you start messing with borders, it'll never end. Only in exceptional cases (Palestine, Montenegro, Western Sahara) would I even consider supporting the formation of new nations. Autonomy I don't care.

The basque people are a completely different people from the sorrunding etnycities, you have to consider that.
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 03:52:35 PM »
Quote from: Senator Bono on January 11, 2005, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: M on January 11, 2005, 04:42:10 AM
No; once you start messing with borders, it'll never end. Only in exceptional cases (Palestine, Montenegro, Western Sahara) would I even consider supporting the formation of new nations. Autonomy I don't care.

The basque people are a completely different people from the sorrunding etnycities, you have to consider that.

A very European opinion.  An American would not think much of mixed ethnicities in a single nation.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 05:15:16 PM »
Quote from: John Ford on January 11, 2005, 03:52:35 PM
Quote from: Senator Bono on January 11, 2005, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: M on January 11, 2005, 04:42:10 AM
No; once you start messing with borders, it'll never end. Only in exceptional cases (Palestine, Montenegro, Western Sahara) would I even consider supporting the formation of new nations. Autonomy I don't care.

The basque people are a completely different people from the sorrunding etnycities, you have to consider that.

A very European opinion.  An American would not think much of mixed ethnicities in a single nation.

Touché.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2005, 05:55:35 PM »
No. After Basque, it will be Galicia and Catalonia for Spain Corsica for France, Wallonia and Flanders for Belgium, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Trentino-AltoAdige, Sardegna, Sicilia, Vallee d’Aosta for Italie (yeah so much ...), Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales for the United Kingdom ... it hasn't got any end !
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2005, 04:08:13 PM »
Yes. However, someone has to control the ETA.
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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2005, 04:32:31 PM »
Quote from: Senator Bono on January 11, 2005, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: M on January 11, 2005, 04:42:10 AM
No; once you start messing with borders, it'll never end. Only in exceptional cases (Palestine, Montenegro, Western Sahara) would I even consider supporting the formation of new nations. Autonomy I don't care.

The basque people are a completely different people from the sorrunding etnycities, you have to consider that.

So am I and I don't want autonomy!
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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2005, 04:37:47 PM »
Quote from: Maastricht on January 11, 2005, 05:55:35 PM
No. After Basque, it will be Galicia and Catalonia for Spain Corsica for France, Wallonia and Flanders for Belgium, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Trentino-AltoAdige, Sardegna, Sicilia, Vallee d’Aosta for Italie (yeah so much ...), Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales for the United Kingdom ... it hasn't got any end !

But we could get rid of those Bavarians... Did I just say that? Um, never mind...
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« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2005, 04:46:11 PM »
Quote from: republicanjew18 on January 14, 2005, 04:08:13 PM
Yes. However, someone has to control the ETA.

ETA would't have a point after independence.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2005, 06:22:49 PM »
Quote from: Senator Bono on January 14, 2005, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: republicanjew18 on January 14, 2005, 04:08:13 PM
Yes. However, someone has to control the ETA.

ETA would't have a point after independence.

He probably means they shouldn't get a share of the government.
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2005, 08:55:48 PM »
It should probably be sovereign, but it shouldn't even be an issue as it really doesn't matter even for those living in Basque.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2005, 02:40:08 AM »
There's a difference between ethnicity and language.  In the US, we have a heck of a lot of different ethnicities, but with certain exceptions (Acadians, Aroostook County ME, Immigrants--who we expect to eventually, in the course of time, speak English).  The Basques are not immigrants who chose to come to Spain, they are a separate people with a separate language, and thus deserve to have a separate nation in my opinion, if they so choose.
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2005, 07:41:52 PM »
I am mixed in my feelings for support of a Basque nation. If the majority of the people in the region want a new goverment, they should recieve one. Otherwise, then I say no.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2005, 08:59:24 PM »
Quote from: Erc on January 15, 2005, 02:40:08 AM
There's a difference between ethnicity and language.  In the US, we have a heck of a lot of different ethnicities, but with certain exceptions (Acadians, Aroostook County ME, Immigrants--who we expect to eventually, in the course of time, speak English).  The Basques are not immigrants who chose to come to Spain, they are a separate people with a separate language, and thus deserve to have a separate nation in my opinion, if they so choose.

What's so important about language.

Eh, you should go to the Southwest or certain other parts of the country to see the importance of the English language in this country.
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