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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: March 21, 2012, 03:45:10 PM »

I just want to randomly crap out my opinion that there's too much of an emphasis on Jews

Why does this bother you?
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 06:27:16 PM »

Because it's a disservice to the non-Jews who were gassed/baked/starved/burned/worked to death.

How, exactly, does giving a significant degree of attention to the Jewish victims of Nazism do a 'disservice' to the non-Jewish victims of Nazism? Is there only a finite amount of empathy and outrage in the world, or must it be rationed when Jews are the victims? Of course maybe you're just trolling.

Regardless of any more impassioned arguments, the Holocaust has to be seen as a central event of modern history because it brought to a (sudden, utterly violent and utterly complete) end a way of life that stretched back centuries and because it was the most extreme practical implementation of certain ideologies and theories that had become of central importance to the West during the previous century.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 11:05:13 PM »

Ah, the internet equivalent of shouting like a drunk.
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2012, 03:59:44 PM »

This was definitely badly worded, it would've come across as less bad if it was instead something like "Is there an unfair lack of emphasis given to the non-Jews killed in the Holocaust?"

But still not great. A specific word for what happened to European Jewry is clearly needed (as what happened was different and of especially grim importance for the reasons pointed out earlier) and Shoah has never really caught on.

Also, of course, it's an odd argument as it's really only the Roma who are even half-ignored. Most other persecuted groups ('even' those, such as homosexuals, who were never really subject to mass murder) have been given a great deal of attention, especially (when relevant) within their own countries.

And I somehow get the impression that sort of people who get mysteriously irritated at having to see Jews as victims are perhaps less than likely to react well to the idea of seeing Gypsies as victims either...
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