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« on: March 25, 2012, 10:35:03 PM »
« edited: March 25, 2012, 10:44:13 PM by cope1989 »

Here's a little graph I put together to avoid studying










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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 10:42:31 PM »

Ok i feel stupid. I put together a map of the Florida PVI relative to popular vote in every election since 1988, but I can't figure out how to post it!
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2012, 10:45:27 PM »

Ok i feel stupid. I put together a map of the Florida PVI relative to popular vote in every election since 1988, but I can't figure out how to post it!

Use  [*img]http://www.yourimageURL.com[*/img] (no *s)
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2012, 11:00:52 PM »
« Edited: March 25, 2012, 11:05:10 PM by cope1989 »

ok, gonna try to do that. I actually tried that. I saved my graph as a jpg, opened a webpage with it, and inserted into the image captions, but nothing showed up
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2012, 11:38:20 PM »

ok, gonna try to do that. I actually tried that. I saved my graph as a jpg, opened a webpage with it, and inserted into the image captions, but nothing showed up

So it's uploaded to the web? Make sure you have the file extension exactly how it appears on the web (for example, ".jpg" does not equal ".JPG" and vice-versa).
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 02:47:38 AM »

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=gallery

click MyImages, upload it, copy/paste the link.
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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2012, 03:30:38 AM »

Georgians sticking together Cry
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2012, 03:57:05 AM »

Here's a chart showing the democratic margin of victory compared to the national margin since 1932.

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2012, 05:25:19 AM »


Way to break the D-GA combo!

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2012, 06:06:04 PM »

You know what? As I was creating the graph, I thought I remembered someone else making these trend maps. Looks like I was right! Thanks for helping me out Antonio! Your map is pretty much on point with my results, but goes back further.

1976 and 1980 in my opinion were aberrations, since Florida was more southern back then, and Carter was a southern candidate.

But after 1984 it's an interesting cycle. in 1984 and 1988, it's much more Republican than the rest of the nation. Then in 1992, it swings hard to Clinton, but not enough to flip it, gets closer to the median in 1996 and then falls right at the median in 2000 before trending more rep in 2004 and 2008.

My explanation for its initial swing in the 1990s: South Florida followed the same trend as the NE did. Many of the moderate Republican voters who has voted for Reagan and Bush broke for Clinton in 92 and 96. Counter that with the republican trend in N Florida and you make the state very competitive.

My guess is that in 2000, Lieberman on the ticket really pleased the older Jewish voters in South Florida. In 2004 an 2008, many of these older white ethnic voters who had been democratic for a while moved towards the Republicans- I guess they began to perceive the democratic party as increasingly for young people and minorities. So a lot of those Gore/Lieberman voters voted for Bush/Cheney and McCain/Palin. And the trend continues today.

Prediction: By 2016 we start to see a different cycle. Many of those voters die off and are replaced by a younger, more diverse crowd that's more Democratic, swinging Florida to the left again. Of course, older voters will always be moving to Florida and the north looks like it will stay Republican so it will remain a swing state.
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2012, 02:59:18 AM »


We should form an Atlas Georgian Rapid Response Squad!

I think the trends in Florida are quite interesting. There are predictable Democratic shifts going on in the vast majority of states and yet Florida keeps its balance throughout the past few cycles. Like cope said, the North sends its seniors down to Florida in rather large numbers and it seems to be an endless cycle, with wave after wave stampeding over the state line. This effect will wear out and the sheer size of the state's native demographics (at least in the south) will help push this state into a swing state status similar to Pennsylvania, maybe in 15-20 years. I think through the 2010s and maybe all the way through the 2020s, Florida will remain a flip-flopper and keep the margin within five points.
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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2012, 03:12:18 AM »

I always had the feeling that Florida was slipping away from the Democrats. On the state level the Democrats seem to be struggling really, really badly. It kept returning Republicans even in the 2006-2008 cycle.
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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2012, 01:16:50 PM »

You know what? As I was creating the graph, I thought I remembered someone else making these trend maps. Looks like I was right! Thanks for helping me out Antonio! Your map is pretty much on point with my results, but goes back further.

I made an entire thread dedicated to this kind of analyses (with tons of maps and graphs). You can find it here : https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=128059.0 Enjoy ! Smiley


As for Florida, it's hard to say where it's going, but in the long term I think it might become lean-D (say in 15-20 years). Right now, though, democrats should focus on other States like Virginia and Colorado.
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2012, 01:47:45 PM »

yeah, it's just hard to ignore a swingable state that's so rich in electoral votes.
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