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« on: January 11, 2005, 06:05:15 PM »

For all those Southern apologists who believe we shouldn't have restored in the Union in 1861.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2005, 06:10:52 PM »

Are the people living in slavery today any less human than the slaves of the South?

I don't support slavery in the South, or in Great Britain, or anywhere else. Would I support an imperialistic war to end it? No, not on that basis. To what end do we take this? Are we going to engage in a futile, endless world war to end all the injustice in the world?

That said, secession is illegal, so the Civil War was justified.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2005, 06:42:43 PM »

Do you support mass murder?

Or are you just an idiot that thinks Southerners fought for slaves most of them didn't own?
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2005, 06:47:00 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2005, 06:49:13 PM »

Slavery was an ugly stain on our history, but thankfully it was ended 140 years ago by the 13th amendment.
If your next question is; should there be reparations? My answer is no.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2005, 07:11:31 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2005, 07:13:39 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max

Interesting. We were never taught this in school (gee, that's a surprise). I always had the impression it was at least a very large minority.

Do you have a source for that?
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2005, 08:32:16 PM »
« Edited: January 11, 2005, 08:33:49 PM by Lunar »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max

Interesting. We were never taught this in school (gee, that's a surprise). I always had the impression it was at least a very large minority.

Do you have a source for that?

I remember being taught that in school.

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Yawn.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2005, 08:45:53 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max

Interesting. We were never taught this in school (gee, that's a surprise). I always had the impression it was at least a very large minority.

Do you have a source for that?

Most black people where slaves but their masters treated them like family... Come on now.. the stuff you read in books about how the master would treat them like crap is 100% bull crap..
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2005, 08:47:27 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max

Interesting. We were never taught this in school (gee, that's a surprise). I always had the impression it was at least a very large minority.

Do you have a source for that?

I remember being taught that in school.

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Yawn.


Um, okay. It isn't in my text book.

What do you mean "yawn?"
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2005, 09:39:20 PM »

Didn't we have this discussion last week?
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2005, 10:42:02 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max

Interesting. We were never taught this in school (gee, that's a surprise). I always had the impression it was at least a very large minority.

Do you have a source for that?

I remember being taught that in school.

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Yawn.


Um, okay. It isn't in my text book.

What do you mean "yawn?"

I'd imagine that most textbooks, when discussing the slave-ownership in the south would probably mention percentages somewhere.

And by "yawn" I mean that your comparison between economic taxation and physical slavery is absurd.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2005, 11:09:18 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max

Interesting. We were never taught this in school (gee, that's a surprise). I always had the impression it was at least a very large minority.

Do you have a source for that?

I remember being taught that in school.

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Yawn.


Um, okay. It isn't in my text book.

What do you mean "yawn?"

I'd imagine that most textbooks, when discussing the slave-ownership in the south would probably mention percentages somewhere.

And by "yawn" I mean that your comparison between economic taxation and physical slavery is absurd.

I just looked and my AP US History textbook has no mention of percentages.  It says "a sizable minority of landowning males also owned slaves".
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2005, 11:26:23 PM »

Shrug.  I remember learning in history class (with an outdated textbook) that most of the South didn't own slaves, and of those that did, most of them owned only one or two.  It was a while ago though.
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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2005, 12:14:33 AM »

Ah, are we talking about now?
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2005, 06:38:58 AM »

It would be kind of cool to enslave all those racist crackers who voted for Bush down south.
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2005, 06:56:29 AM »

I'd imagine that most textbooks, when discussing the slave-ownership in the south would probably mention percentages somewhere.

And by "yawn" I mean that your comparison between economic taxation and physical slavery is absurd.

Well, see Jake's post.

I'm not talking about economic taxation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

"Some states such as Myanmar and Sudan do facilitate the institution of slavery, according to anti-slavery groups such as Free the Slaves. In these cases, unfree labourers are often told that they are working off a debt, but to have no access to an accounting for that debt, and no right to take any higher-paying or less supervised employment."
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2005, 09:28:44 AM »

My mistake (I apologize).  I thought you were ranting about economic taxation being the same thing as slavery.
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« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2005, 03:30:35 PM »

I really hope those that responded yes did so sarcastically
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« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2005, 03:33:32 PM »

It would be kind of cool to enslave all those racist crackers who voted for Bush down south.

Another classic.
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« Reply #20 on: January 12, 2005, 03:45:21 PM »

Yeah, what percentage of the free, adult Southern population owned slaves?

4% Max

Interesting. We were never taught this in school (gee, that's a surprise). I always had the impression it was at least a very large minority.

Do you have a source for that?

I remember being taught that in school.

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Yawn.


Um, okay. It isn't in my text book.

What do you mean "yawn?"

I'd imagine that most textbooks, when discussing the slave-ownership in the south would probably mention percentages somewhere.

And by "yawn" I mean that your comparison between economic taxation and physical slavery is absurd.

I just looked and my AP US History textbook has no mention of percentages.  It says "a sizable minority of landowning males also owned slaves".

Even if you used one of the left-leaning textbooks (which one did you use, BTW?) I remember my teacher (A bush-disliking Rockefeller Republican) made it clear to us the small percentage of actual slave-owners.
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« Reply #21 on: January 12, 2005, 03:50:40 PM »

Slaves were to expensive for just "anyone" to own. Slaves ranged in price from 500-5000 dollars depending on age, skill, sex, condition. A 20-25 year old male in good health would have been around the 3000 dollar mark. A woman of the same age would probably be higher in price. Children usualy were in the 500-1000 range depending on various conditions. Anyone over 40 would have been 500 or would not have been sold at all. Slaves who were partially educated and could read would go for the highest prices.
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« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2005, 04:29:40 PM »

It would be kind of cool to enslave all those racist crackers who voted for Bush down south.

How about u leave teh US then you will be much happier
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« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2005, 04:47:03 PM »

It would be kind of cool to enslave all those racist crackers who voted for Bush down south.

How about u leave teh US then you will be much happier

Have you been paying attention? He lives in Thailand.
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« Reply #24 on: January 12, 2005, 04:48:07 PM »

It would be kind of cool to enslave all those racist crackers who voted for Bush down south.

How about u leave teh US then you will be much happier

I live in Thailand, at the moment, and it is an improvement.  I just thought it was a funny reversal to imagine white slaves toiling on the Plantation, their necks burned bright red by the sun. Wink
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