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politicus
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« on: March 24, 2012, 06:04:20 PM »

No, no and no.

Second Amendment is one of the worst US laws. It never proved than it served a purpose, except causing violence.

The Second Amendment means that a US citizen can use their gun to defend themselves instead of being helpless in the face of crime. It's the difference between the women who was raped, killed, and thrown in a ditch, and the woman calmly explaining to the police how she fended off someone trying to assault her.

With time, I hope, similar laws will be spread around the First World.
The trouble is that the victims gun is often used against her/him. Criminals will always be better at using firearms than most regular folks.
If you are attacked and doesn't have any combat experience most people either panic or loose their nerve.
Generally countries with strict gun laws also have lower levels of violent crimes. Fewer guns=less violence.
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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 04:01:00 PM »
« Edited: March 25, 2012, 04:05:33 PM by politicus »

Is this the first gun debate on the internet for you people?
Meaning everyone knows, what everybody else are going to say so it is pointless to argue about it? Well, maybe...
I kinda like firearms myself (target practice, hunting etc.) and I would probably own a sizable gun collection if I were American. But I still think that the American idea that they make ordinary people safer is simply plain wrong, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.
There are a couple of debates (taxation of the wealthy, guns, death penalty and the murder rate etc.) where many Americans simply ignore the evidence from the rest of the world.
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« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2012, 11:02:27 AM »

I think a general gun law debate should take place in a separate thread. But I am very sceptical as to whether it will be productive/enlightning in any way.
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« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 11:11:23 AM »

But I still think that the American idea that they make ordinary people safer is simply plain wrong, there is just too much evidence to the contrary.
Is there? In my own country gun control was imposed over a decade ago... the statistical analysis since then have largely concluded that the ban had a statistically insignificant effect on the crime rate, with a minority(largely organized by pro-gun organizations) asserting a statistically significant increase in crime. Notably their haven't been any studies, even those organized by gun control advocates, that asserted a statistically significant decrease in crime... I emphasize, those studies with a bias in favour of finding that gun control reduced crime weren't able to justify that assertion. Which is remarkable considering how easy it normally is to find some statistical evidence, no matter how shallow, that "proves" your point.

The overall crime rate is not that intersting. Do those surveys deal with severe violent crime? I would be interested in some references.
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