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« on: March 30, 2012, 01:15:08 PM »

This was passed last year and then rejected by the public on the grounds that it had several inconsistencies and errors. Too my knowledge those errors have been corrected and this was reintroduced. However, the bill as written is unworkable because the specified dates in Section 1 have lapsed; the bill sat far longer in the queue then I imagined it would. If we determine to go ahead with the mentioned transition, then they need to be changed. Before any of that is done, I want to know whether in the present circumstances, is such a transition desired or even advisable by any of the present Senators?

If not, Section 1 should be scraped, with the remainder amended accordingly, and subsquently considered.

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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2012, 05:08:43 PM »

HELLO?!!!!!!!!!!!1
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 02:48:56 PM »

If there is no feedback or discussion from the Senate body on this by tomorrow, I am going to have it tabled.
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 03:11:56 PM »

The idea was too turn the Regional elections into a midterm sort of thing,while making the At-Large seats correspond with the Presidential election. Atleast that is what the first part does.


The second part frees up the Regions in terms of administration and allows them to determine electoral methods for the Regional Senate seats.

I am mixed on it myself. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 03:14:44 PM »

Intially the bill did far more and was condensed down to just this by an amendment that I offered. However, some things were overlooked and it died because of those. Hence why I reintroduced a corrected version (back in January, expecting it to be brought up much quicker then this).
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2012, 03:39:01 PM »

Right now the Regionals are on the ballot with the Presidential election (You only vote in election for the regional seat which you reside in) and the At-large are held as midterms, basically. All Senate elections are administered by the SoFE with uniform processes for all five regional Senate elections.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2012, 04:07:28 PM »

Who sponsored this?
With Marokai gone, I was hoping to see less of his bad ideas but whatevs.

There is a post in this thread that answers that question. There will also soon be another. Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 04:08:07 PM »

I have decided to accept TJ's amendment as friendly. Senators have 24 hours to object.
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2012, 05:31:17 PM »

The best route would probably be as separate piece of legislation.


TJ's Amendment has passed.


Anything else here?
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 06:47:27 PM »

With the elimination of Section 1, yes the At-Large are still during the midterms.


Now the question becomes, what has to be done to Section 2 to make it work in the absence of Section 1.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2012, 08:10:06 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2012, 05:04:55 PM »

I never said I was finished TJ. Tongue I would have included "Amendment" in there somewhere if I was.


I had to go to class and couldn't finish it earlier. I have some other work to do before I can much Senate wise and the "Santorum DROPPED OUT OMG OMG OMG!!!" is delaying my dealing with that stuff. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2012, 08:50:32 PM »

I am just to going to treat them both as separate amendments and give 24 hours to object to them.
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« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2012, 06:53:20 PM »

The amendments have passed.
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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2012, 08:24:54 PM »

If there are no more final issues to be resolved here or points to make, I will bring this up for a final vote tomorrow.
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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 06:20:16 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2012, 06:49:15 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2012, 06:25:49 PM »

Senators, the Empowering Regions in Federal Elections Amendment is now at Final Vote, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 07:11:45 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2012, 06:45:26 PM »
« Edited: April 17, 2012, 06:53:15 PM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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Vote on Final Passage of the Empowering Regions in Federal Elections Amendment:

Aye (7): Alfred T. Jones, clarence, ilikeverin, NC Yankee, Pingvin99, Scott and TJ in Cleve
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (3): MoPolitico, Nathan and Sbane

With seven votes in the affirmative, the requisite 2/3rds of the Senate has passed the Constitutional Amendment and it is sent to the Regions for ratification.
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« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2012, 06:51:39 PM »


What exactly are you referring to? The final text I posted on page two had a lingering clause that had been amended out. Them strikethroughs just don't copy and paste. Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2012, 09:32:37 PM »

You know, that is why we have 10 people in this body. So that you have nine "reviewers" in case something was missed. TJ found something I had missed. Someone else wasn't available to discover what he missed.

This too shall pass. I can reintroduce this, put it into the PPT slot which is open. Use UC and have it at vote by tomorrow night.
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2012, 07:12:14 PM »

Call me an idiot, but I don't get why it wouldn't work.


Which explains why no one discovered it. Tongue 

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