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« on: March 24, 2012, 12:13:16 AM »

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I found that pretty funny.  Hopefully some of you will too.
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2012, 12:25:00 AM »

I'm pretty sure TV Tropes linked to this at some point.
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2012, 05:43:16 AM »

This. Is. Just. Brilliant.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2012, 05:49:46 AM »

Feel free to add your own...and they can be about different "episodes" from history.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2012, 07:39:55 AM »

That reality is profoundly unrealistic is not exactly news.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 10:34:58 AM »

That reality is profoundly unrealistic is not exactly news.

This. But it's still an awesome article.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2012, 11:32:48 AM »

The important thing to note that a lot of basic popular conceptions of "goodness" and - especially - of "evil" come from World War II.

There is a reason why George Lucas put so many Nazi references into the Original Star Wars trilogy. And while Lucas is/was many things, a greatly imaginative aesthete is certainly not one of them....
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2012, 03:25:00 AM »
« Edited: March 25, 2012, 08:51:57 PM by Nathan »

I have serious problems with the Ichi-no-Tani and Dan-no-ura episodes in the Genpei War story arc. Let's start with how flagrantly ridiculous Yoshitsune's strategy at Ichi-no-Tani is. You can't just send cavalry gallivanting off into the mountains and then have them charge down the slopes at your enemy's position, especially mountains like the ones above the Suma Shore. The whole thing was just entirely too dynamic on the Minamoto's part for what was supposed to be a siege action, and the only reason fans like the episode so much is because it has that scene with Kumagai and Atsumori that keeps getting all of those symbolic callbacks in Japan-centric arcs in later seasons. If they could have taken that scene and somehow incorporated it into one of the better episodes in that arc, like say the Siege of Nara (Shigehira's a really interesting and simultaneously horrifying and tragic character and I wish they wrote more like him), that'd be perfect.

My issue with Dan-no-ura is the way it ended. Most of the battle was fairly good and well-foreshadowed in that the Taira spent like the whole season after Ichi-no-Tani fleeing further and further down the coast and once you get to Shimonoseki there's not a whole hell of a lot of other places to try to go if you don't leave the country entirely. That's not my problem. Even Taguchi betraying the Taira didn't entirely surprise me. That's not my problem either. That guy was a jerk in the first place. My problem is the part where the Emperor dies. It's ridiculously unnecessary and cruel; Emperor Antoku was six years old and had the Three Sacred Treasures with him, for God's sake.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2012, 09:52:01 AM »

Carl Sagan talked about parts of that episode in Cosmos, leading up to one of the few parts that is wrong about the show.  From wiki
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 10:32:59 AM »
« Edited: April 15, 2012, 02:58:04 AM by Mikestone8 »

Especially when you match it up with that "1066" movie.

There you have an invasion force going from Normandy to England, with a minstrel called Taillefer ("Iron hewer" in French) in the lead. In WW2, you have one going from England to Normandy under some guy called Eisenhower ("iron hewer" in German). Oh yeah?

And those names. Churchill "The Church on the Hill" symbol of Olde England, and "De Gaulle", "Of the Gauls", symbol of France. They're supposed to be real? Oh come off it.

It's as bad as that Abraham Lincoln business. Too good to be true, has his greatest triumph on Palm Sunday, then killed on Good Friday. A plain steal from the Bible, only thing they left out was the Resurrection.

This stuff wouldn't fool a ten year old kid.
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« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2012, 02:57:59 PM »

Yeah, the Nazis were just like sterotypical comic book villains... could it have become any more clichéd?
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2012, 03:53:13 PM »

The costumes were much better in the first series.  I loved those pointy hats.
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